what caused this dastardly little island to produce some of the best television out there? t. yank
brit tv :
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.9315
>>9626
>>9315 (OP)
I maintain that skins is the best teen show of all time. mad fat diary is pretty good too
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.9316
>>9325
>>9316
trvke. I wish there were more bong actors featuring in US media. e.g. every time Olivia Coleman shows up it's a treat.
my list:
- jam
- the thick of it
- the office
- bruiser
- that mitchell and webb look
- camping
- nighty night
- utopia
- extras
- the day today
- bodyguard
- blackadder
- the world at war
- jeeves and wooster
I'm probably forgetting a few.
>>9321
Can't be much worse than U.S. television.
>>9323
>The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity.
I agree with you in spirit although it's become a bit cliche at this point lol: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JD3VKYoN5zI.
and some of the best actors.
anyway here's a list of my favorite miniseries
1) i, claudius
2) the inbetweeners
3) all creatures great and small
4) bbc adaptations of pride & prejudice 1995 and Emma 2009
Anonymous :
16 days ago :
No.9321
>>9325
>>9316
trvke. I wish there were more bong actors featuring in US media. e.g. every time Olivia Coleman shows up it's a treat.
my list:
- jam
- the thick of it
- the office
- bruiser
- that mitchell and webb look
- camping
- nighty night
- utopia
- extras
- the day today
- bodyguard
- blackadder
- the world at war
- jeeves and wooster
I'm probably forgetting a few.
>>9321
Can't be much worse than U.S. television.
>>9323
>The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity.
I agree with you in spirit although it's become a bit cliche at this point lol: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JD3VKYoN5zI.
People overemphasis the hit rate of British television: lots of highs coupled with immense lows - but, of course, only us Britons see the rubbish.
Anonymous :
16 days ago :
No.9323
>>9324
>>9323
UK a millennium ago is France mate
>>9325>>9316
trvke. I wish there were more bong actors featuring in US media. e.g. every time Olivia Coleman shows up it's a treat.
my list:
- jam
- the thick of it
- the office
- bruiser
- that mitchell and webb look
- camping
- nighty night
- utopia
- extras
- the day today
- bodyguard
- blackadder
- the world at war
- jeeves and wooster
I'm probably forgetting a few.
>>9321
Can't be much worse than U.S. television.
>>9323
>The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity.
I agree with you in spirit although it's become a bit cliche at this point lol: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JD3VKYoN5zI.
>>9351It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK. So many showrunners, comedians, actors etc are all Oxbridge. Probably has something to do with respect for the dramatic arts like >>9323 says.
Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader? The kind of intolerable and conceited dorm-room musings that make anyone over the age of 22 wince? Yes, but at least many of them aren't afraid to take risks, it seems, and have some respect for the intelligence of the audience. I'm not a britbong so perhaps I'm mistaken. American media is populist through and through, which has its own pros and cons. There is a "mom and pop"-ism to even highbrow stuff.
The first is their rich heritage of playwrighting which goes back arguably a millenium.
The second is their cohesive television production tradition, the center of which is the BBC.
The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity. The rest of Europe also has great drama and comedy, you just don't speak their languages and so it never reaches you.
The older generation of American liberals knew this, which is why until the age of the internet and later streaming, the only way to see any British telly was on PBS.
>>9323
The first is their rich heritage of playwrighting which goes back arguably a millenium.
The second is their cohesive television production tradition, the center of which is the BBC.
The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity. The rest of Europe also has great drama and comedy, you just don't speak their languages and so it never reaches you.
The older generation of American liberals knew this, which is why until the age of the internet and later streaming, the only way to see any British telly was on PBS.
UK a millennium ago is France mate
>>9316
and some of the best actors.
anyway here's a list of my favorite miniseries
1) i, claudius
2) the inbetweeners
3) all creatures great and small
4) bbc adaptations of pride & prejudice 1995 and Emma 2009
trvke. I wish there were more bong actors featuring in US media. e.g. every time Olivia Coleman shows up it's a treat.
my list:
- jam
- the thick of it
- the office
- bruiser
- that mitchell and webb look
- camping
- nighty night
- utopia
- extras
- the day today
- bodyguard
- blackadder
- the world at war
- jeeves and wooster
I'm probably forgetting a few.
>>9321People overemphasis the hit rate of British television: lots of highs coupled with immense lows - but, of course, only us Britons see the rubbish.
Can't be much worse than U.S. television.
>>9323The first is their rich heritage of playwrighting which goes back arguably a millenium.
The second is their cohesive television production tradition, the center of which is the BBC.
The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity. The rest of Europe also has great drama and comedy, you just don't speak their languages and so it never reaches you.
The older generation of American liberals knew this, which is why until the age of the internet and later streaming, the only way to see any British telly was on PBS.
>The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity.
I agree with you in spirit although it's become a bit cliche at this point lol: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JD3VKYoN5zI.
British TV hasn't been good for a decade+ now
Yes, Minister is also excellent, and pretty much a crash course in the art of politics as well. Anyone who has to deal with political machinations in the workplace or any other venue could learn something from it.
Anonymous :
15 days ago :
No.9347
>>9619
>>9351
>It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK.
I always thought this was pretty universal. We have our own nepo babies, although it seems that for some reason (I don't know if I completely agree with the 'respect for the dramatic arts' theory) the British ones are infinitely more talented.
>Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader?
When the alternative is, I don't know, East Enders, it doesn't seem too bad.
>>9347
>Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
This is a big one. Probably the most glaring difference between the UK and US office and by extension their respective approaches to comedy.
British snark and passive aggression translate to wit and subtlety on the screen. Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
Would highly recommend:
- Detectorists: slice of life sort of light comedy about metal detectorists
- People Just Do Nothing: mockumentary about inept MCs running a pirate radio station
- Fleabag: dramedy about... dunno how to describe this one, it's good though
- Endeavour: detective mystery with wonderfully convoluted plots set in period-accurate 60s London (I guess it's a spin-off of another show, but you don't really notice)
Also the first season or two of Sherlock are fun but super schlocky. Midsomer Murders is another one to check out if you like weird cozy mysteries, but it also falls off hard after the first ~10 seasons.
Anonymous :
15 days ago :
No.9351
>>9619
>>9351
>It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK.
I always thought this was pretty universal. We have our own nepo babies, although it seems that for some reason (I don't know if I completely agree with the 'respect for the dramatic arts' theory) the British ones are infinitely more talented.
>Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader?
When the alternative is, I don't know, East Enders, it doesn't seem too bad.
>>9347
>Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
This is a big one. Probably the most glaring difference between the UK and US office and by extension their respective approaches to comedy.
It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK. So many showrunners, comedians, actors etc are all Oxbridge. Probably has something to do with respect for the dramatic arts like >>9323
The first is their rich heritage of playwrighting which goes back arguably a millenium.
The second is their cohesive television production tradition, the center of which is the BBC.
The third is that through the lens of American experience, such is the paucity of culture and interpersonal communication of that place, everything and everywhere else in comparison is brimming with wit and creativity. The rest of Europe also has great drama and comedy, you just don't speak their languages and so it never reaches you.
The older generation of American liberals knew this, which is why until the age of the internet and later streaming, the only way to see any British telly was on PBS.
says.
Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader? The kind of intolerable and conceited dorm-room musings that make anyone over the age of 22 wince? Yes, but at least many of them aren't afraid to take risks, it seems, and have some respect for the intelligence of the audience. I'm not a britbong so perhaps I'm mistaken. American media is populist through and through, which has its own pros and cons. There is a "mom and pop"-ism to even highbrow stuff.
Anonymous :
4 days ago :
No.9619
>>9620
>>9619
Oxbridge doesn't necessarily mean upper-class in the UK. As far as I know footlights is pretty meritocratic and many if not most of its alumni are working class (like Robert Webb) or middle class but with no prior connections to speak of (like David Mitchell).
Actors who come from non-comedy backgrounds do tend to be posher and more nepo-coded (Emma Watson springs immediately to mind). I think they are also less good. Olivia Coleman cut her teeth doing silly drunken student comedy revues, Emma Watson went to the Something Or Other Elite Acting School for People So Posh That They're Unironically French, but I think 100/100 people would agree which one is the better actress. Comedy is a good filter because if you haven't got the chops to be funny it almost doesn't matter who your dad is, unlike almost everything else in life.
>>9351
It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK. So many showrunners, comedians, actors etc are all Oxbridge. Probably has something to do with respect for the dramatic arts like >>9323 says.
Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader? The kind of intolerable and conceited dorm-room musings that make anyone over the age of 22 wince? Yes, but at least many of them aren't afraid to take risks, it seems, and have some respect for the intelligence of the audience. I'm not a britbong so perhaps I'm mistaken. American media is populist through and through, which has its own pros and cons. There is a "mom and pop"-ism to even highbrow stuff.
>It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK.
I always thought this was pretty universal. We have our own nepo babies, although it seems that for some reason (I don't know if I completely agree with the 'respect for the dramatic arts' theory) the British ones are infinitely more talented.
>Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader?
When the alternative is, I don't know, East Enders, it doesn't seem too bad.
>>9347British snark and passive aggression translate to wit and subtlety on the screen. Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
Would highly recommend:
- Detectorists: slice of life sort of light comedy about metal detectorists
- People Just Do Nothing: mockumentary about inept MCs running a pirate radio station
- Fleabag: dramedy about... dunno how to describe this one, it's good though
- Endeavour: detective mystery with wonderfully convoluted plots set in period-accurate 60s London (I guess it's a spin-off of another show, but you don't really notice)
Also the first season or two of Sherlock are fun but super schlocky. Midsomer Murders is another one to check out if you like weird cozy mysteries, but it also falls off hard after the first ~10 seasons.
>Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
This is a big one. Probably the most glaring difference between the UK and US office and by extension their respective approaches to comedy.
Anonymous :
4 days ago :
No.9620
>>9628
>>9626
Watching Skins always made me feel like shit so I never got fully into it lol.
>>9620
I do concede that the entertainment industry in the UK might be more meritocratic. Nevertheless it stills skew heavily toward aristocrats. For ex. the "notable members" section of the footlights wiki page is almost entirely made up of people who went to public school or prep school though they only represent 1% of pupils.
There's a pretty significant trend
>>9619
>>9351
>It was always weird to me that entertainment was an upper-class thing in the UK.
I always thought this was pretty universal. We have our own nepo babies, although it seems that for some reason (I don't know if I completely agree with the 'respect for the dramatic arts' theory) the British ones are infinitely more talented.
>Can the worst of it reek of the sophomoric mental-vapors of a loyal Guardian reader?
When the alternative is, I don't know, East Enders, it doesn't seem too bad.
>>9347
>Also Brits aren't afraid to make their characters miserable.
This is a big one. Probably the most glaring difference between the UK and US office and by extension their respective approaches to comedy.
Oxbridge doesn't necessarily mean upper-class in the UK. As far as I know footlights is pretty meritocratic and many if not most of its alumni are working class (like Robert Webb) or middle class but with no prior connections to speak of (like David Mitchell).
Actors who come from non-comedy backgrounds do tend to be posher and more nepo-coded (Emma Watson springs immediately to mind). I think they are also less good. Olivia Coleman cut her teeth doing silly drunken student comedy revues, Emma Watson went to the Something Or Other Elite Acting School for People So Posh That They're Unironically French, but I think 100/100 people would agree which one is the better actress. Comedy is a good filter because if you haven't got the chops to be funny it almost doesn't matter who your dad is, unlike almost everything else in life.
Obviously not British, but Father Ted has a lot of the qualities that lots of people like in British comedy but is wildly underrated by foreigners.
Anonymous :
4 days ago :
No.9626
>>9628
>>9626
Watching Skins always made me feel like shit so I never got fully into it lol.
>>9620
I do concede that the entertainment industry in the UK might be more meritocratic. Nevertheless it stills skew heavily toward aristocrats. For ex. the "notable members" section of the footlights wiki page is almost entirely made up of people who went to public school or prep school though they only represent 1% of pupils.
There's a pretty significant trend
>>9315 (OP)
I maintain that skins is the best teen show of all time. mad fat diary is pretty good too
Anonymous :
4 days ago :
No.9628
>>9629
>>9628
Even the more recent ones? I accept that all the pythons and the goodies were posh lads afaik
>>9626
>>9315 (OP)
I maintain that skins is the best teen show of all time. mad fat diary is pretty good too
Watching Skins always made me feel like shit so I never got fully into it lol.
>>9620>>9619
Oxbridge doesn't necessarily mean upper-class in the UK. As far as I know footlights is pretty meritocratic and many if not most of its alumni are working class (like Robert Webb) or middle class but with no prior connections to speak of (like David Mitchell).
Actors who come from non-comedy backgrounds do tend to be posher and more nepo-coded (Emma Watson springs immediately to mind). I think they are also less good. Olivia Coleman cut her teeth doing silly drunken student comedy revues, Emma Watson went to the Something Or Other Elite Acting School for People So Posh That They're Unironically French, but I think 100/100 people would agree which one is the better actress. Comedy is a good filter because if you haven't got the chops to be funny it almost doesn't matter who your dad is, unlike almost everything else in life.
I do concede that the entertainment industry in the UK might be more meritocratic. Nevertheless it stills skew heavily toward aristocrats. For ex. the "notable members" section of the footlights wiki page is almost entirely made up of people who went to public school or prep school though they only represent 1% of pupils.
There's a pretty significant trend
Anonymous :
4 days ago :
No.9629
>>9630
>>9629
Ditto. Looking at the list of most recent ones (with a wiki page) apparently only about 1/2 of them went to some sort of private/public school.
>>9628
>>9626
Watching Skins always made me feel like shit so I never got fully into it lol.
>>9620
I do concede that the entertainment industry in the UK might be more meritocratic. Nevertheless it stills skew heavily toward aristocrats. For ex. the "notable members" section of the footlights wiki page is almost entirely made up of people who went to public school or prep school though they only represent 1% of pupils.
There's a pretty significant trend
Even the more recent ones? I accept that all the pythons and the goodies were posh lads afaik