/pt/ – Petrarchan

Which is 100 Gecs an example of? Haha, sorry, just throwing shade at them, they've always irritated me. My first instinct is that trend of describing things as "coworker music". I think what defines low openness is not specifically the artist or genre but the low openness leading the individual to assume certain things and to draw seemingly arbitrary boundaries depending on what they have encountered in their life first. I have in mind a family member who used to blast the local classical music station very loudly in his truck. Was it because he was a classical music connoisseur? No, but he had the impression that because classical music was a white person/European thing, and listening to it made him part of that group, he would continue to listen to it, without actually appreciating the music itself. That's low openness, for a genre that's usually not included these discussions.

Expanding on the low openness being a behavior verses categorical taste, I can think of many people who have listened to metal their entire lives but never ever venture out of their chosen lane, and have extremely specific opinions about what constitutes metal or not (beyond the usual and understandable debates such as nu-metal, alt-metal, djent and so on). Black metal fans are often stereotyped as such but I find that a cliche judgement passed by those more unfamiliar with the genre, or the psychology of listeners, and besides black metal itself is rather wide once you actually start listening to it, even core second wave bands. One of the guys who runs Hells Headbangers has a Youtube channel and he's always going on about how true metalheads only listen to two or three specific C-tier 90s bands like Mortician or Nunslaughter (his friends' bands, a coincidence surely). That is definitely 'low openness' in its strongest form.

>>9098

Which is 100 Gecs an example of? Haha, sorry, just throwing shade at them, they've always irritated me. My first instinct is that trend of describing things as "coworker music". I think what defines low openness is not specifically the artist or genre but the low openness leading the individual to assume certain things and to draw seemingly arbitrary boundaries depending on what they have encountered in their life first. I have in mind a family member who used to blast the local classical music station very loudly in his truck. Was it because he was a classical music connoisseur? No, but he had the impression that because classical music was a white person/European thing, and listening to it made him part of that group, he would continue to listen to it, without actually appreciating the music itself. That's low openness, for a genre that's usually not included these discussions.

>No, but he had the impression that because classical music was a white person/European thing, and listening to it made him part of that group, he would continue to listen to it, without actually appreciating the music itself. Is your family member missing a right eye by any chance? Anyways I've never heard about openness which is a good thing given that it's fake and gay: >Openness tends to be normally distributed, with a small number of people scoring extremely high or low on the trait and most people scoring moderately

>>9109

>>9098 >No, but he had the impression that because classical music was a white person/European thing, and listening to it made him part of that group, he would continue to listen to it, without actually appreciating the music itself. Is your family member missing a right eye by any chance? Anyways I've never heard about openness which is a good thing given that it's fake and gay: >Openness tends to be normally distributed, with a small number of people scoring extremely high or low on the trait and most people scoring moderately

I would also really like to know how serious these 'Big 5' traits are as a way of understanding human psychology. It seems like people at least online take them seriously in a way they never would for the superficially similar MBTI types.

Low openness is not only a matter of breadth, it's also expressed in concrete thinking, practical focus, routine and ritual. I would expect a person with lower openness to value music that more obviously relates to a specific and immediate situation. For example, an extreme version of this person would listen to "Taking Care of Business" or "Working 9 to 5" when driving in to work... routinely. I would expect a person with higher openness to show a higher interest in music that explores abstract concepts, more distant or fantastical situations, with no necessary bearing on present application.

>>9096 (OP) Did you make this thread just to move the discussion out of my drain thread

>>9109

>>9098 >No, but he had the impression that because classical music was a white person/European thing, and listening to it made him part of that group, he would continue to listen to it, without actually appreciating the music itself. Is your family member missing a right eye by any chance? Anyways I've never heard about openness which is a good thing given that it's fake and gay: >Openness tends to be normally distributed, with a small number of people scoring extremely high or low on the trait and most people scoring moderately

He's from the Balkans, but it's not a coincidence at all that similar feelings of insecurity arise in Black Americans and Eastern Europeans towards their white/Western neighbors

Discussions of taste are by and large gay and autistic - that being said, 100 Gecs is trash-tier internet music for pontificate about their enjoyment of oriental cartoons and racist PNGs.

>racist PNGs 100 Gecs is the most liberal/left-coded shit out there (one of the members is trans), what are you going on about? Ask ChatGPT like you said you would, it probably knows more about this subject than you do.

>>9130

>racist PNGs 100 Gecs is the most liberal/left-coded shit out there (one of the members is trans), what are you going on about? Ask ChatGPT like you said you would, it probably knows more about this subject than you do.

The venn diagram of irony-poisoned trans stuff and Chan culture is a circle.

Read Sonemic's interview with Octa Möbius Sheffner

>>9113

Low openness is not only a matter of breadth, it's also expressed in concrete thinking, practical focus, routine and ritual. I would expect a person with lower openness to value music that more obviously relates to a specific and immediate situation. For example, an extreme version of this person would listen to "Taking Care of Business" or "Working 9 to 5" when driving in to work... routinely. I would expect a person with higher openness to show a higher interest in music that explores abstract concepts, more distant or fantastical situations, with no necessary bearing on present application.

This is interesting. I know lots of people that listen to music through a series of spotify-curated mood playlists. During dinner they'll play a "chill dinner" playlist, during their commute they play a "wake up!" playlist, etc etc. The use of music as background-decoration-commodity is very alien to me. Most days I don't listen to any music at all. >>9129

Discussions of taste are by and large gay and autistic - that being said, 100 Gecs is trash-tier internet music for pontificate about their enjoyment of oriental cartoons and racist PNGs.

Hop off 100 gecs

as someone who grew up with a college radio station run by humans, spotify disgusts me to my core

>>9135

>>9113 This is interesting. I know lots of people that listen to music through a series of spotify-curated mood playlists. During dinner they'll play a "chill dinner" playlist, during their commute they play a "wake up!" playlist, etc etc. The use of music as background-decoration-commodity is very alien to me. Most days I don't listen to any music at all. >>9129 Hop off 100 gecs

>Most days I don't listen to any music at all. used to be a basically listen to something all the time person. music at the gym, on walks, scrolling, etc. one day, i realized how little i listen to the world around me, so i stopped, and take in the bird sounds, people's steps on pavement, so on. it's now remarkable to me how many people go through life with an earbud in constantly.

>>9154

>>9135 >Most days I don't listen to any music at all. used to be a basically listen to something all the time person. music at the gym, on walks, scrolling, etc. one day, i realized how little i listen to the world around me, so i stopped, and take in the bird sounds, people's steps on pavement, so on. it's now remarkable to me how many people go through life with an earbud in constantly.

This tbh + the recent study that says that most earbuds and headphones release PFAS and other hormonal disrupters through skin contact and sweat. Also, it's low key like any addiction: a distraction, an attempt to avoid something and to fill a pretty normal void.

Shame this place has inherited the RSP genre of "I'm 25 and just touched grass for the first time and now I'm going to evangelize online about how great touching grass is and how fucked up our society is because the other people don't touch grass".

>>9156

Shame this place has inherited the RSP genre of "I'm 25 and just touched grass for the first time and now I'm going to evangelize online about how great touching grass is and how fucked up our society is because the other people don't touch grass".

You mean people sharing their experiences? lol The injunction to originality could be regarded as some sort of mental cancer pretty typical of our era where everything is a performance. "The truth is always new", even if we all experience it and it comes out as a platitude. That's merely a sign of our common humanity. Maybe you're not in the right place and the truths here are too stale to you.

>>9157

>>9156 You mean people sharing their experiences? lol The injunction to originality could be regarded as some sort of mental cancer pretty typical of our era where everything is a performance. "The truth is always new", even if we all experience it and it comes out as a platitude. That's merely a sign of our common humanity. Maybe you're not in the right place and the truths here are too stale to you.

I obviously am not referring to people sharing their experiences. I mean when people discover some positive change in their life, and immediately after start to malign that *others* continue that habit. Notice >>9154

>>9135 >Most days I don't listen to any music at all. used to be a basically listen to something all the time person. music at the gym, on walks, scrolling, etc. one day, i realized how little i listen to the world around me, so i stopped, and take in the bird sounds, people's steps on pavement, so on. it's now remarkable to me how many people go through life with an earbud in constantly.

didn't say "it's remarkable to me that I went my whole life with an earbud in constantly", because truly fathoming that faulty habit would be painful, so he deflects it -- how terrible it is that OTHERS go through life that way! This is the common thread in every one of these posts, changing one's habit and THEN immediately judging others for doing that same thing they just quit. Should I reiterate this several more times or do you get it finally?

>>9158

>>9157 I obviously am not referring to people sharing their experiences. I mean when people discover some positive change in their life, and immediately after start to malign that *others* continue that habit. Notice >>9154 didn't say "it's remarkable to me that I went my whole life with an earbud in constantly", because truly fathoming that faulty habit would be painful, so he deflects it -- how terrible it is that OTHERS go through life that way! This is the common thread in every one of these posts, changing one's habit and THEN immediately judging others for doing that same thing they just quit. Should I reiterate this several more times or do you get it finally?

She's talking about herself in the whole post except the last sentence, then she extends it to others because she now notices it is pretty common behaviour. I don't think it's deflection, but thanks for sharing your impression.

>>9159

>>9158 She's talking about herself in the whole post except the last sentence, then she extends it to others because she now notices it is pretty common behaviour. I don't think it's deflection, but thanks for sharing your impression.

Interesting, are you using "she" in the style of 20th century academics or you think the poster is female because they didn't capitalize anything? Anyway, they're more than likely male.

>>9156

Shame this place has inherited the RSP genre of "I'm 25 and just touched grass for the first time and now I'm going to evangelize online about how great touching grass is and how fucked up our society is because the other people don't touch grass".

>>9158

>>9157 I obviously am not referring to people sharing their experiences. I mean when people discover some positive change in their life, and immediately after start to malign that *others* continue that habit. Notice >>9154 didn't say "it's remarkable to me that I went my whole life with an earbud in constantly", because truly fathoming that faulty habit would be painful, so he deflects it -- how terrible it is that OTHERS go through life that way! This is the common thread in every one of these posts, changing one's habit and THEN immediately judging others for doing that same thing they just quit. Should I reiterate this several more times or do you get it finally?

>>9160

>>9159 Interesting, are you using "she" in the style of 20th century academics or you think the poster is female because they didn't capitalize anything? Anyway, they're more than likely male.

i would be more pissed off at your psychoanalysis, but it's not wrong in some ways (mostly being 25 and just touched grass for the first time). i don't believe your judgement is correct that i am necessarily maligning others, at least consciously. i am judging the normalcy of the habit and that i was once unthinkingly apart of that group. i've tried articulating my thoughts on this to people irl who wear earbuds 24/7 but they just think i'm crazy so i keep it to myself. also i am a man lol but im kind of fruity so i won't take this misgendering personally. btw i frequently switch between all lower case and "correct" grammatical structure.

>>9160

>>9159 Interesting, are you using "she" in the style of 20th century academics or you think the poster is female because they didn't capitalize anything? Anyway, they're more than likely male.

I just assumed female and went with it because why not (and also, I was curious about how it could offer an out and/or derail the conversation).

>>9156

Shame this place has inherited the RSP genre of "I'm 25 and just touched grass for the first time and now I'm going to evangelize online about how great touching grass is and how fucked up our society is because the other people don't touch grass".

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v03j55qjrdc