/pt/ – Petrarchan

For our very self-centered times, maybe. It does get your head out of your own ass. But it's an answer to some problems, not all of them.

It's an extraordinary cat at the very least

>>8133

For our very self-centered times, maybe. It does get your head out of your own ass. But it's an answer to some problems, not all of them.

Broadly, prosocial, constructive, externally-directed positive energy is the answer to pretty much every problem besides the heat death of the universe.

>8145 Except when I message my crush and he doesn't answer, and I suddenly wonder if none of it was real.

>>8155

>8145 Except when I message my crush and he doesn't answer, and I suddenly wonder if none of it was real.

He answered:3

You could say it's the answer. Yes. If you are full of love and learn to love people around you even with or even for their flaws, you'll live more happy and fulfilled. And if that is the case, than you don't really need much beyond the basic needs. Which in turn will make you less likely to do stuff that creates suffering for others.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8a "Love is patient and is kind. Love doesn’t envy. Love doesn’t brag, is not proud, doesn’t behave itself inappropriately, doesn’t seek its own way, is not provoked, takes no account of evil; doesn’t rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things. Love never fails..."

You aren't going to get it until you're a proper Peircean who accepts that there are three realities. 1. In the reality of immediate, direct, idiosyncratic experience, there are experiences of overwhelming passion. These cannot be spoken of as much as expressed through heartfelt cries, unhinged behavior, etc. This is the love that poets struggle (and I believe fail) to relate. 2. In the reality of rationally analyzed experience, love is indexed as the sciences say it is. It is correlated with chemistry, biological mechanics, reproductive cycles, sexual and social selection, cultural performance, etc. This is the love that the cynic prefers to desecrate. 3. In the reality of the evolution of the cosmos, love is that lure from the end of time that draws all of creation forward into harmony with Him. Agape is a glimmer in the pursuit of higher reality. This is the love that Christ came to preach.

>>8215

You aren't going to get it until you're a proper Peircean who accepts that there are three realities. 1. In the reality of immediate, direct, idiosyncratic experience, there are experiences of overwhelming passion. These cannot be spoken of as much as expressed through heartfelt cries, unhinged behavior, etc. This is the love that poets struggle (and I believe fail) to relate. 2. In the reality of rationally analyzed experience, love is indexed as the sciences say it is. It is correlated with chemistry, biological mechanics, reproductive cycles, sexual and social selection, cultural performance, etc. This is the love that the cynic prefers to desecrate. 3. In the reality of the evolution of the cosmos, love is that lure from the end of time that draws all of creation forward into harmony with Him. Agape is a glimmer in the pursuit of higher reality. This is the love that Christ came to preach.

>when he is at 3 and you are at 1

>>8215

You aren't going to get it until you're a proper Peircean who accepts that there are three realities. 1. In the reality of immediate, direct, idiosyncratic experience, there are experiences of overwhelming passion. These cannot be spoken of as much as expressed through heartfelt cries, unhinged behavior, etc. This is the love that poets struggle (and I believe fail) to relate. 2. In the reality of rationally analyzed experience, love is indexed as the sciences say it is. It is correlated with chemistry, biological mechanics, reproductive cycles, sexual and social selection, cultural performance, etc. This is the love that the cynic prefers to desecrate. 3. In the reality of the evolution of the cosmos, love is that lure from the end of time that draws all of creation forward into harmony with Him. Agape is a glimmer in the pursuit of higher reality. This is the love that Christ came to preach.

1 is just mania

>>8215

You aren't going to get it until you're a proper Peircean who accepts that there are three realities. 1. In the reality of immediate, direct, idiosyncratic experience, there are experiences of overwhelming passion. These cannot be spoken of as much as expressed through heartfelt cries, unhinged behavior, etc. This is the love that poets struggle (and I believe fail) to relate. 2. In the reality of rationally analyzed experience, love is indexed as the sciences say it is. It is correlated with chemistry, biological mechanics, reproductive cycles, sexual and social selection, cultural performance, etc. This is the love that the cynic prefers to desecrate. 3. In the reality of the evolution of the cosmos, love is that lure from the end of time that draws all of creation forward into harmony with Him. Agape is a glimmer in the pursuit of higher reality. This is the love that Christ came to preach.

>>8233

>>8215 1 is just mania

It's so easy to fall for that meme.

>>8235

>>8215 >>8233 It's so easy to fall for that meme.

i experience it on a daily basis even without any reason for love

>>8233

>>8215 1 is just mania

>look at me guys, I've distanced myself so completely from emotional immediacy that I get to treat the object of Ovid, Petrarch, and Shakespeare as a mental disorder. Absolutely buglike attitude.

>>8250

>>8233 >look at me guys, I've distanced myself so completely from emotional immediacy that I get to treat the object of Ovid, Petrarch, and Shakespeare as a mental disorder. Absolutely buglike attitude.

Passion is a form of madness, really. Doesn't mean one should always avoid it, but it is a dangerous fire.

>>8261

>>8250 Passion is a form of madness, really. Doesn't mean one should always avoid it, but it is a dangerous fire.

Good luck babe

>>8250

>>8233 >look at me guys, I've distanced myself so completely from emotional immediacy that I get to treat the object of Ovid, Petrarch, and Shakespeare as a mental disorder. Absolutely buglike attitude.

cool heads prevail

It's an extraordinary cat at the very least

>>8261

>>8250 Passion is a form of madness, really. Doesn't mean one should always avoid it, but it is a dangerous fire.

passion should remain under a strict vigilance of samadhi

>>8321

>>8261 passion should remain under a strict vigilance of samadhi

Indeed. It burns, but it can be a great teacher.