/pt/ – Petrarchan

>>6510 >Don't bring redscarepod/overall reddit gender politics into here. Do you associate this incredibly broad topic exclusively with a certain subreddit? Just one of those weird things people get interested in, right, like a fandom or something? It may be niche politics to you because you never have had to use the internet as a minority, hypervigilant about what and how you type into the keyboard. Anyway, I see the mood is not so great for this topic in here so I'll stop the longhousing and let you guys have your cool boyz club

>>6522 (I'm >>6510). What did you even seek to accomplish by making a poll where people can lie about their sex to know how many women there are in here? If you want to discuss something legitimately interesting that could be related to women's issues, then do it, but a poll strikes me as a low effort attempt at stirring divisiveness without even any meaningful arguments to justify it. >It may be niche politics to you because you never have had to use the internet as a minority, hypervigilant about what and how you type into the keyboard. I'm a woman too. I know what it's like to move through the internet and have everyone assume that you must be a man, because that is the default. Even then, I don't get the hypervigilance you talk about. Do you constantly have to modify the way you write to blend in/is blending in so important to you? I could definitely do without some of the misogynistic attitudes in here and the trans threads but overall this place isn't bad.

I was expecting a larger portion of women, actually, considering this is a literature board. I wouldn't think of literature as a gendered thing. A lot of people I know think of literature as a womanly thing, even. Maybe they're all hiding in the "see results" option. >>6512 You're more likely to convince someone to share information through a couple of button clicks than you are making them type it out, I would think.

>>6522 Haha! No my queen, please stay here. We can even exchange out of site communications with each other. You know... if you want to discuss dialectics with me. If you get what I mean, haha.

>>6522 (I'm >>6510). What did you even seek to accomplish by making a poll where people can lie about their sex to know how many women there are in here? If you want to discuss something legitimately interesting that could be related to women's issues, then do it, but a poll strikes me as a low effort attempt at stirring divisiveness without even any meaningful arguments to justify it. >It may be niche politics to you because you never have had to use the internet as a minority, hypervigilant about what and how you type into the keyboard. I'm a woman too. I know what it's like to move through the internet and have everyone assume that you must be a man, because that is the default. Even then, I don't get the hypervigilance you talk about. Do you constantly have to modify the way you write to blend in/is blending in so important to you? I could definitely do without some of the misogynistic attitudes in here and the trans threads but overall this place isn't bad.

>>6565 lol

>>6569 I put Other with trans but the site messed up and put an additional Other below it. Sorry

>>6570 Thanks for the insight. I loved pretending to be too fobby to understand whatever genderretard shtick people were trying to pull off. They can patronizingly ignore me and I don't have to do the song and dance. All is peaceful

>>6570 Would love to hear more from your perspective about public polling and the state of our politics in the current year.

>>6579 In short, most polling on issues ('should we do X') is fake because it depends so much on the way questions are framed. The people paying for it are generally aware of this, and commission polls to put them out in the media, in order to set the debate up in terms that suit them ('x percent of mothers support banning <thing>'). It is a literal example of manufacturing of consent. It is possible to do polls etc properly though. However, if you are part of a group paying for this work, it's normally not in your interest to publicise it, because what you want is to put your opponent on the back foot and keep him confused. For example, if I ran a political campaign in the UK and had polls in each constituency to work out how many seats I can win, I actually don't want my opponent to know which seats are the most difficult for me because then he will put more resources there. Naturally, everybody knows which seats have the smallest margins from last election's results, but only the pros know what the actual margin is based on changes in the electorate's demographics and borders since last time. Election polls are more accurate because the interests behind them (media organisations and big business) have an interest in actually being right (if you can predict the next president, you know who to suck up to!). Multilevel regression w/ post-stratification is the state-of-the-art method in political polling and is used when you want actual results. The inventor of this, Andrew Gelman, has a blog which you may find interesting. Like I said, I just do not read any social science work which comes out of lobby groups, not out of prejudice, but because it is so unlikely to be accurate, and trying to work out which parts are and which aren't takes too long. Rather than look at polls on support of e.g. weed legalisation in a given area (many special interest groups going on here), I would just look at age ratios, race demographics, socio-economic status, and work it out from there.

>>6583 Why is it a problem if transgender people make a thread for themselves?

>>6595 >Why is it a problem if transgender people make a thread for themselves? >4chan-style bad faith 'no U are the bigot' arguing Leave

>>6615 >fencers Femcels, sorry

>>6615 Barring some exceptional cases, I imagine that's how it is for most forums...

>>6615 Cisgender women don't use the Internet for some reason, barring maybe Pinterest.

>>6615 i like dick, does that make you feel better?

>>6618 Take the dysphoria test. You may be surprised by what you find.