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Anonymous : 8 days ago : No.6101 >>6111
>>6101 (OP) Postmodernism represents the breakdown of the large social narratives, e.g. communism or fascism. At some point one could reasonably believe that a society, built around rejecting all large scale social structures (calling this liberalism is historically wrong, but the term is used to describe exactly this) would make human conflict obsolete. Humans not captured by these "social diseases" would freely choose identities built around hedonistic activities and conflict based on these identities would never threaten society in general. This is the status quo in most of the West. The end of history is universal perpetuity of this state of humanity. But what is increasingly clear is that a significant part of humanity outright rejects this and that societies who embrace it are becoming increasingly unstable. Both from the outside and from the inside. It is not a world view that can carry you through war, poverty and hunger. The next great philosophical development will be how humanity reconciles the death of ideology with a world which has become dangerous. Nietzsche tried to construct an answer for the individual, but a Nietzschean society is unthinkable. It is a question which will find an answer, sooner or later.

Anons, what will be the next great philosophical development? Will there ever be another?

Anonymous : 8 days ago : No.6103 >>6104
>>6103 I can't
shut up
Anonymous : 8 days ago : No.6104
>>6103
shut up
I can't
Anonymous : 8 days ago : No.6110 >>6113
>>6110 I know the name, but not anything about him. What's the rundown on non philosophy?
it's already happened Francois Laruelle!!
Anonymous : 8 days ago : No.6111 >>6120
>>6111 Ideology and large social narratives are alive and well. 'Human rights', rationalism, progressivism, tech-optimism, liberalism, environmentalism and even postmodernism itself are just some of the grand narratives that rule over the minds of nearly every Westerner.
>>6101 (OP) Postmodernism represents the breakdown of the large social narratives, e.g. communism or fascism. At some point one could reasonably believe that a society, built around rejecting all large scale social structures (calling this liberalism is historically wrong, but the term is used to describe exactly this) would make human conflict obsolete. Humans not captured by these "social diseases" would freely choose identities built around hedonistic activities and conflict based on these identities would never threaten society in general. This is the status quo in most of the West. The end of history is universal perpetuity of this state of humanity. But what is increasingly clear is that a significant part of humanity outright rejects this and that societies who embrace it are becoming increasingly unstable. Both from the outside and from the inside. It is not a world view that can carry you through war, poverty and hunger. The next great philosophical development will be how humanity reconciles the death of ideology with a world which has become dangerous. Nietzsche tried to construct an answer for the individual, but a Nietzschean society is unthinkable. It is a question which will find an answer, sooner or later.
Anonymous : 7 days ago : No.6113
>>6110
it's already happened Francois Laruelle!!
I know the name, but not anything about him. What's the rundown on non philosophy?
Anonymous : 7 days ago : No.6120
>>6111
>>6101 (OP) Postmodernism represents the breakdown of the large social narratives, e.g. communism or fascism. At some point one could reasonably believe that a society, built around rejecting all large scale social structures (calling this liberalism is historically wrong, but the term is used to describe exactly this) would make human conflict obsolete. Humans not captured by these "social diseases" would freely choose identities built around hedonistic activities and conflict based on these identities would never threaten society in general. This is the status quo in most of the West. The end of history is universal perpetuity of this state of humanity. But what is increasingly clear is that a significant part of humanity outright rejects this and that societies who embrace it are becoming increasingly unstable. Both from the outside and from the inside. It is not a world view that can carry you through war, poverty and hunger. The next great philosophical development will be how humanity reconciles the death of ideology with a world which has become dangerous. Nietzsche tried to construct an answer for the individual, but a Nietzschean society is unthinkable. It is a question which will find an answer, sooner or later.
Ideology and large social narratives are alive and well. 'Human rights', rationalism, progressivism, tech-optimism, liberalism, environmentalism and even postmodernism itself are just some of the grand narratives that rule over the minds of nearly every Westerner.
Anonymous : 6 days ago : No.6129
Philosophies rise and fall in popularity not based on the quality of their ideas, or even the claque of the clique which produced it, but based on what suits élite groups. Remember that the organised minority always beats the disorganised mass. This goes some way to explaining why postmodernism has been so popular (especially since it is largely, though by no means entirely [Derrida struck me as very serious], mush). Postmodernism is just an intellectual way to deal with what happens when you throw together a lot of cultures because of e.g. telecommunications, airplane transport, immigration, globalised economy, etc. You only need to talk about 'rhetorics without violence' etc when you have instigated a situation where violent rhetoric can easily develop into physical violence. This explains why postmodernism is often used toward a political end despite the fact that the actual texts themselves are often too abstruse to be political (see Foucault's description of Deleuze's Thousand Plateaus as a 'primer in anti-fascism'--utter nonsense of course, you could easily justify any sort of thing using Deleuze)
Anonymous : 6 days ago : No.6130
Read John Gray.


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