I recently read Junkie, my first Burroughs. It got me thinking on the full democratization of drug use in America. Marijuana use is practically ubiquitous, there's legal opiates (kratom, etc) at every gas station, and nobody is afraid to openly talk about party drug or psychedelic taking. It's a cliche topic in every magazine by this point. Neither also is the fiend problem contained to the "other side of the tracks," every city has shambling addicts on the corner and median. This isn't a post bemoaning policies or lumpenkultur, but wondering what the human relationship to drugs has evolved to. Writers, poets, etc have always been interested in drugs, wine was the friend of creative ecstasy. However, it's obvious that the draw of drugs has a chaotic, double edged nature, and can result in the destruction of user, his family unit, and the general degradation of society. Are they trite and passé? Still a source of inspiration? A symptom of Western destruction and decadence? Pic unrelated
Anonymous :
11 days ago :
No.6046
>>6054
>>6046
I can agree with this sentiment, though I have some sympathy for the cathinone degens. But the proliferation of "microdosing" has been annoying to witness.
>>6114>>6046
Consuming "recreational" drugs, smoking, and drinking alcohol is degenerate behaviour.
Drugs are a Reddit thing now. Fat thirtysomethings collecting research chemicals like Funko Pops.
Anonymous :
10 days ago :
No.6052
>>6056
>>6052
I think that they may lose relevance simply because of how ubiquitous they now are. Everyone who wants to has held the psychedelic magnet to their TV brain and saw the pretty colors and felt the oneness to their species. Who cares now?
Drugs will always be both muse and demon. Hallucinogens are great. Marijuana, same. Alcohol same, but it's obviously ruinous when it gets out of control- overdo it on shrooms and weed and you just get weirdos and slackers. It's difficult to imagine these drugs ever losing cultural relevance because of their ease of access and the insight their altered states may allow for.
Other drugs are a whole 'nother animal. More harmful, more addictive. Many a writer wrote like a cracked-out madman because he became one. Not ideal.
Sidenote: fuck benzos, they ruin a lot of lives.
>>6052
Drugs will always be both muse and demon. Hallucinogens are great. Marijuana, same. Alcohol same, but it's obviously ruinous when it gets out of control- overdo it on shrooms and weed and you just get weirdos and slackers. It's difficult to imagine these drugs ever losing cultural relevance because of their ease of access and the insight their altered states may allow for.
Other drugs are a whole 'nother animal. More harmful, more addictive. Many a writer wrote like a cracked-out madman because he became one. Not ideal.
Sidenote: fuck benzos, they ruin a lot of lives.
I think that they may lose relevance simply because of how ubiquitous they now are. Everyone who wants to has held the psychedelic magnet to their TV brain and saw the pretty colors and felt the oneness to their species. Who cares now?
Anonymous :
10 days ago :
No.6063
>>6100
>>6063
Drinking is eternal, pot smoking and pill popping are just phases.
Why do the common masses not acknowledge alcohol as a drug, or are unaware it is a drug, or display this bizarre segregation due to its legality? Alcohol is legal and over-the-counter. DXM is legal and over-the-counter. Aspirin is legal and over-the-counter. But if you take 12 aspirin, that WILL be your last headache.
Anonymous :
9 days ago :
No.6079
>>6119
>>6079
>I think anyone who dislikes drugs has basically let their inner child die.
Yeah, what really lets your 'inner child' (gay phrasing) shine is poisoning yourself with neurotoxins.
Drugs are whatever you want them to be. I think anyone who dislikes drugs has basically let their inner child die.
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.6100
>>6127
>>6100
This vaguepost has nothing to do with the chemical composition of any drugs listed. I do not understand why you would reply.
>>6063
Why do the common masses not acknowledge alcohol as a drug, or are unaware it is a drug, or display this bizarre segregation due to its legality? Alcohol is legal and over-the-counter. DXM is legal and over-the-counter. Aspirin is legal and over-the-counter. But if you take 12 aspirin, that WILL be your last headache.
Drinking is eternal, pot smoking and pill popping are just phases.
>>6079
Drugs are whatever you want them to be. I think anyone who dislikes drugs has basically let their inner child die.
>I think anyone who dislikes drugs has basically let their inner child die.
Yeah, what really lets your 'inner child' (gay phrasing) shine is poisoning yourself with neurotoxins.
Anonymous :
6 days ago :
No.6147
>>6158
>>6147
>most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them.
You don't have to try the drugs to know they're impact.
>>6262>>6147
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
why do imageboards seem to attract aggro teetotalers? they're never even in recovery. most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them. they just spam threads with contentless stilted "trad" cliches. of course you see a lot more of it on 4chan
Anonymous :
6 days ago :
No.6152
>>6262
>>6147
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
I'm currently sweating through a horrible 3 day molly hangover and imo most drugs are worth trying, because they teach you a lot about your own capacity for sensation, but only LSD is worth doing regularly. I've never regretted an acid trip.
Anonymous :
5 days ago :
No.6156
>>6262
>>6147
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
>why do imageboards seem to attract aggro teetotalers?
Internet/imageboard culture used to be a lot more freewheeling back in the day, in many respects.
Anonymous :
5 days ago :
No.6158
>>6262
>>6147
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
>>6147
why do imageboards seem to attract aggro teetotalers? they're never even in recovery. most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them. they just spam threads with contentless stilted "trad" cliches. of course you see a lot more of it on 4chan
>most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them.
You don't have to try the drugs to know they're impact.
Anonymous :
20 hours ago :
No.6262
>>6263
>>6262
Common misconception that psychs cause you to go schizo. It's actually dissociatives that bring out latent schizophrenia, especially marijuana. But if you're older than 25, have smoked pot, and aren't schizo then you'll never get it. You might go mad but it won't be the 24/7 round the clock ride of schizophrenia.
>>6147
why do imageboards seem to attract aggro teetotalers? they're never even in recovery. most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them. they just spam threads with contentless stilted "trad" cliches. of course you see a lot more of it on 4chan
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156>why do imageboards seem to attract aggro teetotalers?
Internet/imageboard culture used to be a lot more freewheeling back in the day, in many respects.
, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158>>6147
>most of them seem to have never tried any drug and know next to nothing about them.
You don't have to try the drugs to know they're impact.
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152I'm currently sweating through a horrible 3 day molly hangover and imo most drugs are worth trying, because they teach you a lot about your own capacity for sensation, but only LSD is worth doing regularly. I've never regretted an acid trip.
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
Anonymous :
16 hours ago :
No.6263
>>6265
>>6263
Hmm, I think psychs can trigger things, but I agree that weed is probably worse. I don't smoke full strength weed anymore because it made me feel literally insane (like people are reading my mind and the radio is talking to me), but I like the low THC high CBD varieties. Family genetics are not in my favor for schizo et al mental disorders. But I haven't gone fully loco yet so sometimes I still roll the dice (retardedly, I know).
>>6262
>>6147
my hypothesis: the internet, those who are "online," and especially imageboard frequenters are usually people who avoid the "real world". Interaction with the real world is essentially the only way to interact with drugs and drug culture (except for the very small minority of drug autists who dnm order things that they take alone in their rooms, but i ignore this peculiarity). whether because the real world scares them or the real world forsook them, they cast it off and disdain mass culture and its accoutrements. so, normies and their drugs are despised. very similarly, those online frequenters adopt a contrarian counterculture, and the counterculture to today's western view is something like "the stoic against degeneracy." whether right or not, any recreational drug use is lumped with hedonism, and so this archetypal person will posture against it.
i also agree with >>6156, and i think its mostly because everywhere on the net has been monocultured. there's no more vastly different people interacting with little to no overbearing structure.
>>6158
first of all, >their
second, why? and i don't think "they're impact is obvious" is a real argument.
>>6152
i used to really enjoy psychedelics and think they were really le based, but i decided it was time to be mostly done with them. probably its mostly a subconscious anxiety of going full schizo, but also, once they start feeling less than only fun, i thought that they were not worth the investment.
Common misconception that psychs cause you to go schizo. It's actually dissociatives that bring out latent schizophrenia, especially marijuana. But if you're older than 25, have smoked pot, and aren't schizo then you'll never get it. You might go mad but it won't be the 24/7 round the clock ride of schizophrenia.
>>6263
>>6262
Common misconception that psychs cause you to go schizo. It's actually dissociatives that bring out latent schizophrenia, especially marijuana. But if you're older than 25, have smoked pot, and aren't schizo then you'll never get it. You might go mad but it won't be the 24/7 round the clock ride of schizophrenia.
Hmm, I think psychs can trigger things, but I agree that weed is probably worse. I don't smoke full strength weed anymore because it made me feel literally insane (like people are reading my mind and the radio is talking to me), but I like the low THC high CBD varieties. Family genetics are not in my favor for schizo et al mental disorders. But I haven't gone fully loco yet so sometimes I still roll the dice (retardedly, I know).