/pt/ – Petrarchan

>>5688 Bottom of the barrel anti-intellectuality, obsession with pushing only one frame of view and understanding of the world, post-millenial parochialism devoid of curiosity of others outside of the Self. Just a dead end for any thinking person. Not worth the calories to power your brain to commune with these people. Even my most pithy, throwaway insights and commentary are too valuable for these lost-cause under-30s.

>>5689 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhQql-ZbZmg

>>5689 You're not wrong. As someone who also peruses kiwifarms from time to time, they're often just the mirror image of the things they hate. They claim to hate trannies and everything about contemporary mainstream society yet they love AI, jews, megacorporations, catholicism, etc. There's no ontological consistency, just doing the opposite of what lefties do, being led around on leashes like dogs.

I understand the apprehension but I think this won't be as bad as you're imagining. KF is a lateral and somewhat culturally-adjacent community to this one and its progenitors--dissident and countercultural, but measurably more of the reactionary variety than disillusioned/dirtbag left, and less intellectual on balance. Is KF full of weirdo assholes who are mirror images of the same people they mock? Yes, unquestionably. As someone familiar with its culture, >>5689 and >>5716 are spot-on about the general vibe of the forum. They're less measured, less nuanced, less well-adjusted, more cruel and immature. Overall they're nowhere near as bookish or intellectual on average, but still foundationally disagreeable elitist types with strong opinions (read: Judgmental snobs or wannabe aristocrats, just of a different, slightly more sadistic stripe). At the margins it contains the type of people who may fit well here, so long as they are culturally filtered via keeping the discussion highbrow and avoiding internet drama nonsense. If such people don't shit up the board, the ones who settle here instead of just passing through will probably assimilate without issue, as some definitely already have. This place isn't really interesting enough to fuck with or obsessively document.

>>5689 All of this verbal diarrhea, just say one thing: that you have some petty grudge against a random Internet forum. Calm down; there's no reason to be upset. >>5716 >>5728 If you had even bothered to lurk on that website for at least 5 minutes, you can clearly see that the things you have written are obviously not true, or are, at the very least, greatly exaggerated. I would just embrace the fact that another community has taken positive interest in this imageboard and appreciate the influx of new anons that may or may not appear.

>>5692 Trannies cope, seethe, and dilate.

>>5696 Failures need to ruin the fun for everyone else to validate their existence instead of doing the right thing by killing themselves.

>>5716 This may be difficult for special needs children like yourself to understand, but no forum is a monolith.

I understand the apprehension but I think this won't be as bad as you're imagining. KF is a lateral and somewhat culturally-adjacent community to this one and its progenitors--dissident and countercultural, but measurably more of the reactionary variety than disillusioned/dirtbag left, and less intellectual on balance. Is KF full of weirdo assholes who are mirror images of the same people they mock? Yes, unquestionably. As someone familiar with its culture, >>5689 and >>5716 are spot-on about the general vibe of the forum. They're less measured, less nuanced, less well-adjusted, more cruel and immature. Overall they're nowhere near as bookish or intellectual on average, but still foundationally disagreeable elitist types with strong opinions (read: Judgmental snobs or wannabe aristocrats, just of a different, slightly more sadistic stripe). At the margins it contains the type of people who may fit well here, so long as they are culturally filtered via keeping the discussion highbrow and avoiding internet drama nonsense. If such people don't shit up the board, the ones who settle here instead of just passing through will probably assimilate without issue, as some definitely already have. This place isn't really interesting enough to fuck with or obsessively document.

>>5689 All of this verbal diarrhea, just say one thing: that you have some petty grudge against a random Internet forum. Calm down; there's no reason to be upset. >>5716 >>5728 If you had even bothered to lurk on that website for at least 5 minutes, you can clearly see that the things you have written are obviously not true, or are, at the very least, greatly exaggerated. I would just embrace the fact that another community has taken positive interest in this imageboard and appreciate the influx of new anons that may or may not appear.

>>5722 Which is why I said "they're often," which is a qualifier. Nowhere did I say they're a monolith.

>>5728 The issue is when it does become interesting it will attract the flies and vultures like the now rotten boards did before us. One segment of their community are the soyteens who are known to raid, spam, and generally shit things up. Kiwifarms may not actively encourage raiding, but it will with a wink and a nudge cheer on its results.

>>5689 All of this verbal diarrhea, just say one thing: that you have some petty grudge against a random Internet forum. Calm down; there's no reason to be upset. >>5716 >>5728 If you had even bothered to lurk on that website for at least 5 minutes, you can clearly see that the things you have written are obviously not true, or are, at the very least, greatly exaggerated. I would just embrace the fact that another community has taken positive interest in this imageboard and appreciate the influx of new anons that may or may not appear.

>>5729 It's real: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/page-494#post-21720803

>>5737 >>5753 >>5757 My earlier post was for the "shrill" and "melodramatic" people on this thread whose only conception of and exposure to KF is indirect and filtered more through dominant media portrayals (which are inaccurate and one-dimensional thanks to the efforts of Fong-Jones et al.). I don't think a hyperlink being posted there is as big of a deal or a risk as some are making it out to be. I have lurked the farms extensively, and learned much about OPSEC and various internet populations in my time there. It has many interesting discussions about and incisive criticisms of the dominant strains of internet culture--cruelty and immaturity of the posters notwithstanding. If one can stomach the irreverence and often crude contrarianism of KF, there is much to gain. Regardless of shared DNA, KF is different both in direction and intent compared to this community, and the fear of OP reflects that. Some KF types may integrate well into a space like this, but no one wants Eternal September. Another community giving one like this "positive attention" or an "influx of new anons" could be its death knell, if those new anons are of insufficient caliber--this is a legitimate concern. But I'm sure explaining the concept of demographic replacement to Kiwi Farm immigrants, of all people, would be redundant. Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them have some screws loose, and could invite trouble, as >>5731 notes. I don't think it's healthy behavior, I eventually grew out of it. People who migrate here without having tempered their lolcow obsession might make good contributions, but they can be toxic. But this is also an anonymous imageboard, so what else is new? Just don't shit up the board too much, at least, if you decide to stick around. Lurk moar. >>5770 >KF will dox you, your friends, and your family the moment they find even the smallest crack in your OPSEC. Emotive non-sequitur response, not a rebuttal in any way to what I said. Both can be true at the same time, and I already qualified that KF was full of immature and less well-adjusted people who would do that sort of thing. KF is equally as perceptive, twice as reductive, and a quarter as nice. I agree with >>5574, you should go outside. For your own sake, if nothing else.

calm down all of you. >>5732 nearly every single post in the community features submission thread has 30+ likes. this doesn't mean anything. in the actual 4chan thread there are currently just 12 reactions on it.

>>5737 As someone who discovered this chan from the KF thread, I can safely say they're mostly right. I love the farms but it IS a cesspit.

>>5737 >>5753 >>5757 My earlier post was for the "shrill" and "melodramatic" people on this thread whose only conception of and exposure to KF is indirect and filtered more through dominant media portrayals (which are inaccurate and one-dimensional thanks to the efforts of Fong-Jones et al.). I don't think a hyperlink being posted there is as big of a deal or a risk as some are making it out to be. I have lurked the farms extensively, and learned much about OPSEC and various internet populations in my time there. It has many interesting discussions about and incisive criticisms of the dominant strains of internet culture--cruelty and immaturity of the posters notwithstanding. If one can stomach the irreverence and often crude contrarianism of KF, there is much to gain. Regardless of shared DNA, KF is different both in direction and intent compared to this community, and the fear of OP reflects that. Some KF types may integrate well into a space like this, but no one wants Eternal September. Another community giving one like this "positive attention" or an "influx of new anons" could be its death knell, if those new anons are of insufficient caliber--this is a legitimate concern. But I'm sure explaining the concept of demographic replacement to Kiwi Farm immigrants, of all people, would be redundant. Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them have some screws loose, and could invite trouble, as >>5731 notes. I don't think it's healthy behavior, I eventually grew out of it. People who migrate here without having tempered their lolcow obsession might make good contributions, but they can be toxic. But this is also an anonymous imageboard, so what else is new? Just don't shit up the board too much, at least, if you decide to stick around. Lurk moar. >>5770 >KF will dox you, your friends, and your family the moment they find even the smallest crack in your OPSEC. Emotive non-sequitur response, not a rebuttal in any way to what I said. Both can be true at the same time, and I already qualified that KF was full of immature and less well-adjusted people who would do that sort of thing. KF is equally as perceptive, twice as reductive, and a quarter as nice. I agree with >>5574, you should go outside. For your own sake, if nothing else.

>>5737 >>5753 >>5757 My earlier post was for the "shrill" and "melodramatic" people on this thread whose only conception of and exposure to KF is indirect and filtered more through dominant media portrayals (which are inaccurate and one-dimensional thanks to the efforts of Fong-Jones et al.). I don't think a hyperlink being posted there is as big of a deal or a risk as some are making it out to be. I have lurked the farms extensively, and learned much about OPSEC and various internet populations in my time there. It has many interesting discussions about and incisive criticisms of the dominant strains of internet culture--cruelty and immaturity of the posters notwithstanding. If one can stomach the irreverence and often crude contrarianism of KF, there is much to gain. Regardless of shared DNA, KF is different both in direction and intent compared to this community, and the fear of OP reflects that. Some KF types may integrate well into a space like this, but no one wants Eternal September. Another community giving one like this "positive attention" or an "influx of new anons" could be its death knell, if those new anons are of insufficient caliber--this is a legitimate concern. But I'm sure explaining the concept of demographic replacement to Kiwi Farm immigrants, of all people, would be redundant. Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them have some screws loose, and could invite trouble, as >>5731 notes. I don't think it's healthy behavior, I eventually grew out of it. People who migrate here without having tempered their lolcow obsession might make good contributions, but they can be toxic. But this is also an anonymous imageboard, so what else is new? Just don't shit up the board too much, at least, if you decide to stick around. Lurk moar. >>5770 >KF will dox you, your friends, and your family the moment they find even the smallest crack in your OPSEC. Emotive non-sequitur response, not a rebuttal in any way to what I said. Both can be true at the same time, and I already qualified that KF was full of immature and less well-adjusted people who would do that sort of thing. KF is equally as perceptive, twice as reductive, and a quarter as nice. I agree with >>5574, you should go outside. For your own sake, if nothing else.

>>5737 >>5753 >>5757 My earlier post was for the "shrill" and "melodramatic" people on this thread whose only conception of and exposure to KF is indirect and filtered more through dominant media portrayals (which are inaccurate and one-dimensional thanks to the efforts of Fong-Jones et al.). I don't think a hyperlink being posted there is as big of a deal or a risk as some are making it out to be. I have lurked the farms extensively, and learned much about OPSEC and various internet populations in my time there. It has many interesting discussions about and incisive criticisms of the dominant strains of internet culture--cruelty and immaturity of the posters notwithstanding. If one can stomach the irreverence and often crude contrarianism of KF, there is much to gain. Regardless of shared DNA, KF is different both in direction and intent compared to this community, and the fear of OP reflects that. Some KF types may integrate well into a space like this, but no one wants Eternal September. Another community giving one like this "positive attention" or an "influx of new anons" could be its death knell, if those new anons are of insufficient caliber--this is a legitimate concern. But I'm sure explaining the concept of demographic replacement to Kiwi Farm immigrants, of all people, would be redundant. Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them have some screws loose, and could invite trouble, as >>5731 notes. I don't think it's healthy behavior, I eventually grew out of it. People who migrate here without having tempered their lolcow obsession might make good contributions, but they can be toxic. But this is also an anonymous imageboard, so what else is new? Just don't shit up the board too much, at least, if you decide to stick around. Lurk moar. >>5770 >KF will dox you, your friends, and your family the moment they find even the smallest crack in your OPSEC. Emotive non-sequitur response, not a rebuttal in any way to what I said. Both can be true at the same time, and I already qualified that KF was full of immature and less well-adjusted people who would do that sort of thing. KF is equally as perceptive, twice as reductive, and a quarter as nice. I agree with >>5574, you should go outside. For your own sake, if nothing else.

>>5762 Isn't it heavily anti-trans? Why would a tranny go there?

>>5762 >>5764 >>5770 This is all the same person, by the way. Stop posting. Go outside. Calm down, at least a little bit. We can tell you have some autistic rage-boner for that website. You are not being subtle in any way.

>>5762 >>5764 >>5770 This is all the same person, by the way. Stop posting. Go outside. Calm down, at least a little bit. We can tell you have some autistic rage-boner for that website. You are not being subtle in any way.

>>5762 >>5764 >>5770 This is all the same person, by the way. Stop posting. Go outside. Calm down, at least a little bit. We can tell you have some autistic rage-boner for that website. You are not being subtle in any way.

>>5737 >>5753 >>5757 My earlier post was for the "shrill" and "melodramatic" people on this thread whose only conception of and exposure to KF is indirect and filtered more through dominant media portrayals (which are inaccurate and one-dimensional thanks to the efforts of Fong-Jones et al.). I don't think a hyperlink being posted there is as big of a deal or a risk as some are making it out to be. I have lurked the farms extensively, and learned much about OPSEC and various internet populations in my time there. It has many interesting discussions about and incisive criticisms of the dominant strains of internet culture--cruelty and immaturity of the posters notwithstanding. If one can stomach the irreverence and often crude contrarianism of KF, there is much to gain. Regardless of shared DNA, KF is different both in direction and intent compared to this community, and the fear of OP reflects that. Some KF types may integrate well into a space like this, but no one wants Eternal September. Another community giving one like this "positive attention" or an "influx of new anons" could be its death knell, if those new anons are of insufficient caliber--this is a legitimate concern. But I'm sure explaining the concept of demographic replacement to Kiwi Farm immigrants, of all people, would be redundant. Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them have some screws loose, and could invite trouble, as >>5731 notes. I don't think it's healthy behavior, I eventually grew out of it. People who migrate here without having tempered their lolcow obsession might make good contributions, but they can be toxic. But this is also an anonymous imageboard, so what else is new? Just don't shit up the board too much, at least, if you decide to stick around. Lurk moar. >>5770 >KF will dox you, your friends, and your family the moment they find even the smallest crack in your OPSEC. Emotive non-sequitur response, not a rebuttal in any way to what I said. Both can be true at the same time, and I already qualified that KF was full of immature and less well-adjusted people who would do that sort of thing. KF is equally as perceptive, twice as reductive, and a quarter as nice. I agree with >>5574, you should go outside. For your own sake, if nothing else.

>>5778 >Even though some KF users could fit in here, weirdos who spend their free time obsessively stalking and analyzing others who are marginally weirder than them That has always been the central tenet of the farms, starting with Chris Chan.

>>5790 >KF people have their way. We're not going anywhere, bucko.

>>5804 Newfags from 4chan like yourself, yes.