/pt/ – Petrarchan

Oswald also has some kids running around, kinda funny to think you could talk to someone and they'd say yeah everyone thinks my dad killed JFK. I think the whole family thinks that Mr Lee Harvey was a patsy though.

>>4636

Oswald also has some kids running around, kinda funny to think you could talk to someone and they'd say yeah everyone thinks my dad killed JFK. I think the whole family thinks that Mr Lee Harvey was a patsy though.

The fact that he had a wife and kids has always made me doubt that he did it. Assassins all seem to be loner types, unless they have a really specific grudge against their target. Hard to imagine him grabbing his gun one morning and thinking, "This is the last time I'll see my family."

>>4647

>>4636 The fact that he had a wife and kids has always made me doubt that he did it. Assassins all seem to be loner types, unless they have a really specific grudge against their target. Hard to imagine him grabbing his gun one morning and thinking, "This is the last time I'll see my family."

True, that is unusual but not really unheard of. He doesn't strike me as loving family man either. I think the MO for shooters now is generally a disaffected, alienated young man, but 20th century and earlier gunmen might have a family (easier and more pressure on being single) and a couple screws loose. I could see willful ignorance leading to JFK's assassination being more likely.

>>4649

>>4647 True, that is unusual but not really unheard of. He doesn't strike me as loving family man either. I think the MO for shooters now is generally a disaffected, alienated young man, but 20th century and earlier gunmen might have a family (easier and more pressure on being single) and a couple screws loose. I could see willful ignorance leading to JFK's assassination being more likely.

>willful ignorance leading to JFK's assassination What do you mean by that?

>>4650

>>4649 >willful ignorance leading to JFK's assassination What do you mean by that?

CIA knew something was up and decided to ignore it, let JFK get shot.

>I think the MO for shooters now is generally a disaffected, alienated young man Columbine was a psyop to change precisely this, to funnel masculine angst away from outward, revolutionary tendencies. Spooks are exceptionally proficient at breaking an idea through to the public consciousness seemingly out of nowhere ("memetics"), creating a template for others to follow and align discourse around.

>>4651

>>4650 CIA knew something was up and decided to ignore it, let JFK get shot.

You mean they knew some other organization was planning it? I doubt anyone could've known in advance if Oswald was a lone assassin.

>>4652

>I think the MO for shooters now is generally a disaffected, alienated young man Columbine was a psyop to change precisely this, to funnel masculine angst away from outward, revolutionary tendencies. Spooks are exceptionally proficient at breaking an idea through to the public consciousness seemingly out of nowhere ("memetics"), creating a template for others to follow and align discourse around.

Czolgosz and Guiteau both fit the description, other than Guiteau not being young. I don't think the CIA were particularly active in the 19th century.

What a tremendous and pointless leap of context and logic you had to make for that rebuttal, kek

>>4653

>>4651 You mean they knew some other organization was planning it? I doubt anyone could've known in advance if Oswald was a lone assassin.

Yea

On June 1, 1965, she and electronics worker Kenneth Jess Porter travelled to Fate, Texas, and were wed by a justice of the peace. They had a son. She later accused Kenneth of domestic violence. Marina moved to Rockwall, Texas, with her husband and family, and they generally avoided publicity.[29][30][31][32][33][34] On October 8, 2024, Kenneth died in their family home at the age of 86.[35] Support for Kennedy assassination conspiracy theories[edit] Though she has not formally recanted any of her Warren Commission testimony, stating that she wanted to initially deny the possibility of her husband's guilt,[36][37][38] Marina has said, in various interviews since the late 1980s, that she came to believe that Oswald was completely innocent of the murders of President Kennedy and Officer Tippit, and that she believed Oswald worked for the government.[26][39][40][41] Jim Martin, her manager, said that he felt that despite her testifying against him, he felt that she did not "really think she thought he was guilty".[42] Jim Leavelle, the Dallas Police detective who was handcuffed to Oswald when Ruby shot him, had several meals from time to time with Marina and said that Marina would "sound him out" to see if he had any doubts on Oswald's guilt.[43] In 2018, Marina was contacted for the theory that the unidentified "prayer man" filmed on the steps of the Texas School Book Depository during the assassination by Dave Wiegman, Jr., of NBC, and James Darnell, of WBAP-TV, was Oswald. Ed Ledoux phoned Marina after Stan Dane had sent enlargements of the Darnell and Wiegman films showing the "prayer man" figure. An unprompted Marina volunteered, "It's Lee".[44] She maintains her belief that Oswald was the "prayer man".[citation needed] Marina's daughters also gave a few interviews, in which they expressed scepticism regarding Oswald's guilt though they also say they just want to know the truth.[45][46] In a 1995 interview with the New York Times, June Oswald, the Oswald's oldest child, said when asked on the matter of her father's guilt or innocence: "It would make a difference in the sense of justice being served. If the truth can be found that shows Lee had nothing to do with the assassination, I would feel better in that there have been a lot of things said and done regarding my family that all proceeded from an erroneous perception of what he did or didn't do."[