I don't get the big deal why people hate Jews. It's just another group of people. Sure Israel is an genocidal apartheid belligerent state, but it's pretty stupid to equate what one political administration is doing at a certain place and time and smear it on all Jews, forever, across the globe and two millennia. Some Jewish person lived and died in 1600 in Genoa or whatever and didn't have anything to do with bombing Gaza. Jewish kids in New York City playing basketball and talking funny New Yawk English to their peers doesn't have anything to do with bombing Gaza. And the more that people equate the two the more social divisions arise and the more 'correct' Jewish people feel that they are being prosecuted constantly everywhere. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. Someone the other month got mad because the local bulletin said "happy Passover" and he was personally offended (despite neither of us being Jewish) because "they're killing kids and women in Gaza". Well, yes, Israelis are doing that, but you know also Passover is just some holiday that some people celebrate so idk? I can see their faulty logic but it's so hard for me to muster up any of that personal disgust that seems to come up in this situation. Everything evil that Jews supposedly do every other fucking group does as well. It's either obviously banal ('they stick with their kind'; in-group behavior is a basic human impulse) or some stupid racist shit whose target can be any other minority group and work just as well. Someone on reddit said that Jews have no culture, which from an objective standpoint isn't true, a three second scroll through a Wikipedia page can show you that this clearly isn't the case. You may not personally like klezmer or Jewish plays or whatever but it exists anyway, like it's there, it's not a rare occasion that people develop arts and literature and shit over time, it happens literally everywhere.
On Jews :
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4066
>>4069
>>4066 (OP)
In group behavior is a basic human impulse, but The Tribe takes it way farther than anyone else. Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given. The majority of Jews have nothing to do with this at all. It's similar to the concepts of white privilege and patriarchy.
When people go, oh there weren't six million killed by Nazi Germany, there were only three million! And it's like, three million isn't enough? What's the difference between three million and six million besides historical accuracy? Historical accuracy is important when it comes to academic study but we're chatting over lunch, what does it matter here? Surely two or three million is enough to get across the point of genocide? You know how long it would take you to count to three million? Could you accurately say how many people were killed in the Armenian genocide or the Rwandan genocide off the top of your head? Don't all these pointless human conflicts just blend together at a certain point as the fallible human condition and not much more? The fact that Israelis are inflicting onto Palestinians what Nazis inflicted onto the European Jewish population isn't ironic or some cosmic joke or fulfillment or whatever. It's crass humanity in its full ugly glory over and over again. The only exit is the evolution of the species as a whole.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4069
>>4072
>>4069
>Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given.
This is only really a thing in Germany (for understandable reasons) and the US. You are posting from the limited position of an American who thinks that Israel forced itself upon the poor hapless American folk instead of it being a mutual exchange of powers and complicit agreement by those in charge. I bet you think the US gives out "aid" as well.
>>4066 (OP)
In group behavior is a basic human impulse, but The Tribe takes it way farther than anyone else. Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given. The majority of Jews have nothing to do with this at all. It's similar to the concepts of white privilege and patriarchy.
I feel like the issue of antisemitism would've resolved itself in the west almost entirely by now, considering how Jews are basically as culturally distinct as Italians in the US and almost completely non-visible in Europe, if it weren't for Israel and specifically Israel's attempts to tie Judaism and *being* Jewish with itself.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4072
>>4075
>>4072
Yeah, I was posting from a USA perspective. I'm an American.
>an American who thinks that Israel forced itself
This isn't 4chan or reddit, you don't have to disagree with things I never said based on speculation.
>>4069
>>4066 (OP)
In group behavior is a basic human impulse, but The Tribe takes it way farther than anyone else. Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given. The majority of Jews have nothing to do with this at all. It's similar to the concepts of white privilege and patriarchy.
>Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given.
This is only really a thing in Germany (for understandable reasons) and the US. You are posting from the limited position of an American who thinks that Israel forced itself upon the poor hapless American folk instead of it being a mutual exchange of powers and complicit agreement by those in charge. I bet you think the US gives out "aid" as well.
>>4072
>>4069
>Israel has a massive amount of influence in our politics. Jewish interests are given special considerations no other group is given.
This is only really a thing in Germany (for understandable reasons) and the US. You are posting from the limited position of an American who thinks that Israel forced itself upon the poor hapless American folk instead of it being a mutual exchange of powers and complicit agreement by those in charge. I bet you think the US gives out "aid" as well.
Yeah, I was posting from a USA perspective. I'm an American.
>an American who thinks that Israel forced itself
This isn't 4chan or reddit, you don't have to disagree with things I never said based on speculation.
You revealed it by your phrasing of Israel as the active agent in this situation.
of course most jews are just normal people but the jewish religious and political elite overwhelmingly supports genocide
> Israel is an genocidal
Social media really did a number on you people. Might want to work on grammar before attempting geopolitics.
>Illegitimate state run by an ethnoreligious death cult steals land and creates apartheid against the people that lived there
Call it whatever you want. It's abominable either way.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4086
>>4089
>>4086
You misunderstand. It is an appropriate label, but I simply didn't want to argue semantics when the fact of what it "exactly" is not of important when the Israelis are so obviously acting against in the spirit of a genocide
I'm not calling it what I want. If you want to navigate reality through words with others, it's important to not resort to absurdly inappropriate ones just because you're emotional and you know a reliable way of getting a rise out of a victim is to accuse them of what happened to them.
>death cult
"We love death like our enemies love life"
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4088
>>4092
>>4088
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>>4089
I know people say meanspirited shit about this so I want to be clear I'm not trying to be that way, just asking because I genuinely can't understand you. Is English not your first language? I disagree with you but that's now secondary. Slow down and edit a little more. You don't have to be perfect and you don't even have to want to continue, but if you want a response I have to insist on that.
Which Israeli genocidaires were victims? If you want to navigate reality through words with goyim it's important not to resort to absurdly inappropriate ones just because you're emotional and you know the IDF will never be able to extract enough semen to satisfy your thirst.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4089
>>4092
>>4088
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>>4089
I know people say meanspirited shit about this so I want to be clear I'm not trying to be that way, just asking because I genuinely can't understand you. Is English not your first language? I disagree with you but that's now secondary. Slow down and edit a little more. You don't have to be perfect and you don't even have to want to continue, but if you want a response I have to insist on that.
>>4086
I'm not calling it what I want. If you want to navigate reality through words with others, it's important to not resort to absurdly inappropriate ones just because you're emotional and you know a reliable way of getting a rise out of a victim is to accuse them of what happened to them.
>death cult
"We love death like our enemies love life"
You misunderstand. It is an appropriate label, but I simply didn't want to argue semantics when the fact of what it "exactly" is not of important when the Israelis are so obviously acting against in the spirit of a genocide
>>4088
Which Israeli genocidaires were victims? If you want to navigate reality through words with goyim it's important not to resort to absurdly inappropriate ones just because you're emotional and you know the IDF will never be able to extract enough semen to satisfy your thirst.
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>>4089>>4086
You misunderstand. It is an appropriate label, but I simply didn't want to argue semantics when the fact of what it "exactly" is not of important when the Israelis are so obviously acting against in the spirit of a genocide
I know people say meanspirited shit about this so I want to be clear I'm not trying to be that way, just asking because I genuinely can't understand you. Is English not your first language? I disagree with you but that's now secondary. Slow down and edit a little more. You don't have to be perfect and you don't even have to want to continue, but if you want a response I have to insist on that.
Antisemitism as a distinct form of xenophobia and out-group hatred goes back to the spread of Christianity throughout the Roman empire. Jesus was, according to the Bible, killed by Romans at the behest of the Jews who saw him as a false prophet. There are more Romans than Jews to evangelize to, so the Jews became the primary targets of Christian blame. Plus they should have followed their true god, they are waiting for nothing now... this sort of mindset has only grown in the past 2000 years. Add to that the fact that in the Middle Ages Christians were banned from money lending by the Church but Jews were allowed to, you begin to get stereotypes about money forming. Jews in Europe were frequently slaughtered by those going to and from crusades.
Obviously all of this is horrible, and additionally in no way excuses Israel's genocide of Palestine, but anti-Jewish bigotry is possibly the longest persistent form of bigotry in the world. It's very hard for people to get out of relatively modern racist thought, let alone something that's been going on for millenia.
There is no genocide of Palestine.
It's mostly done by retards that need a scapegoat because they fear complexity and anachronisms. Good indicator of who not to hang out or discuss things with.
There's a less political version of this point to be made as well. If you know a lot of Jewish people, you will run into many examples of unpleasant personal foibles that overlap quite precisely with all the mean spirited stereotypes. The miserliness thing is real; you can argue that it's a justified response to perceived vulnerability etc, but it's also justified to feel irritated around people who have this kind of amped up tight fisted neuroticism. Similarly, many Jewish people have a pretty serious persecution complex. Perhaps justified, definitely psychologically toxic. Also common is this sort of prefabricated 'cool jew' personality of being a constantly self effacing desperate people-pleasing amateur clown. Unattractive! I'm speaking in generalities, but I'm thinking of specific people I know who epitomize at least one of these traits. Now, it goes without saying that individual variance usually determines one's personality much more than group/cultural traits, but there is some merit to the idea of group/cultural traits as well.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.4114
>>4115
>>4114
Huh, I suppose you probably have plenty of negative experiences but I've never found American gentiles to be particularly thrifty. Quite the opposite, in fact. Spending exorbitantly while in debt and foolishly loaning money to untrustworthy friends, only to be inexplicably surprised when the money never comes back. To be more specific though, I wasn't referring to unwillingness to spend on others, but rather unwillingness to spend on one's self. I have acquaintances who day trade as a form of gambling or splurge very heavily after coming into inheritance money-- but I've never seen a Jew with that type of relationship with money.
What do you mean don't personally befit them?
>>4140>>4114
You've gotta have a viscerally repulsive personality if an American won't spend money on you, Americans love throwing money away.
>4109
This is how I feel about Americans. Americans all have weird unpleasant personal foibles and won't spend a cent on you if you don't personally befit them. That's because their culture is fucked up. You are probably American yourself and talking about your American Jewish peers, which is where this behavior arises from - they are terrible in their ways because they are American, not because of something intrinsic to their Jewishness (biological or ethnic/religious)
>>4114
>4109
This is how I feel about Americans. Americans all have weird unpleasant personal foibles and won't spend a cent on you if you don't personally befit them. That's because their culture is fucked up. You are probably American yourself and talking about your American Jewish peers, which is where this behavior arises from - they are terrible in their ways because they are American, not because of something intrinsic to their Jewishness (biological or ethnic/religious)
Huh, I suppose you probably have plenty of negative experiences but I've never found American gentiles to be particularly thrifty. Quite the opposite, in fact. Spending exorbitantly while in debt and foolishly loaning money to untrustworthy friends, only to be inexplicably surprised when the money never comes back. To be more specific though, I wasn't referring to unwillingness to spend on others, but rather unwillingness to spend on one's self. I have acquaintances who day trade as a form of gambling or splurge very heavily after coming into inheritance money-- but I've never seen a Jew with that type of relationship with money.
What do you mean don't personally befit them?
>>4114
>4109
This is how I feel about Americans. Americans all have weird unpleasant personal foibles and won't spend a cent on you if you don't personally befit them. That's because their culture is fucked up. You are probably American yourself and talking about your American Jewish peers, which is where this behavior arises from - they are terrible in their ways because they are American, not because of something intrinsic to their Jewishness (biological or ethnic/religious)
You've gotta have a viscerally repulsive personality if an American won't spend money on you, Americans love throwing money away.
It's circumcision.
I love Jews. But yesterday my jewish friend sent me a 4 paragraph text about Mao's problematic age gap relationships. Before 9am. They're often like this and they're often very politically active. Also my stepmom is jewish and i have resentments surrounding that
The whole "goyim" and "gentile" thing is definitely weird and creepy
Being the dependent variable amidst the expulsion from 110 countries, not to mention the entirety of Talmudic doctrine, is rather alarming.
Ah yes, nothing says Talmudic expert like 110 countries trope dude.
I don't know bout Talmuds or goyims or anything, I just know they got some beautiful Kazaar milkers
>>4153
I love Jews. But yesterday my jewish friend sent me a 4 paragraph text about Mao's problematic age gap relationships. Before 9am. They're often like this and they're often very politically active. Also my stepmom is jewish and i have resentments surrounding that
did she have you circumcized?
No I'm foreskinned. I think this is a point of contention between us
i didnt get antisemitism until i got married. she wont shut up about "the goys" its getting weird, especially in bed.
>4299
reddit comment
Anonymous :
11 days ago :
No.4323
>>4324
>>4323
goyslop is such a good word i think it's going to go mainstream and people will look at you weird if you suggest it's antisemitic in the same way people look at you weird if you suggest the chad drawing meme is white supremacist in origin because they don't know it came out of a website that also posts stuff like 'le 56% face'
I literally never hear that word except online from conspiratards.
>>4323
I literally never hear that word except online from conspiratards.
goyslop is such a good word i think it's going to go mainstream and people will look at you weird if you suggest it's antisemitic in the same way people look at you weird if you suggest the chad drawing meme is white supremacist in origin because they don't know it came out of a website that also posts stuff like 'le 56% face'