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book club thread #2 : Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3283 >>3336
>>3283 (OP) I'm reading the Wild Ass's Skin by Balzac. It's my first book of his and I'm really liking his descriptions and sense of place. I'm only a few pages in but already the gambling house, the streets of Paris, and the antiquities shop were so richly described and established the bleak atmosphere incredibly. Mirrors the mental state of the main character as well. Excited to continue, but class work is getting in the way at the moment.

What are you reading right now? What do you think of it? What have you read so far this year, and what are you going to read next? > last one: >>238 (https://archive.md/chbSl)

Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3286 >>3291
>>3290 ok interesting, well I've only read Remains of the Day but I really recommend it, the film with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson is really excellent as well. >>3286 in my experience not getting fed up with the prose is a key skill to have when reading rushdie, amis also.
So far so good, I've read the first two chapters. In some sense much ado about nothing, but admittedly the prose is starting to get to me. I'm going to finish it though.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3290 >>3291
>>3290 ok interesting, well I've only read Remains of the Day but I really recommend it, the film with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson is really excellent as well. >>3286 in my experience not getting fed up with the prose is a key skill to have when reading rushdie, amis also.
>>3265 It's actually my first Ishiguro. I'm going to wait until I'm done reading it before judging his writings. I do plan on reading more of his work.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3291
>>3290
>>3265 It's actually my first Ishiguro. I'm going to wait until I'm done reading it before judging his writings. I do plan on reading more of his work.
ok interesting, well I've only read Remains of the Day but I really recommend it, the film with Anthony Hopkins and Emma Thompson is really excellent as well. >>3286
So far so good, I've read the first two chapters. In some sense much ado about nothing, but admittedly the prose is starting to get to me. I'm going to finish it though.
in my experience not getting fed up with the prose is a key skill to have when reading rushdie, amis also.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3292 >>3542
>>3292 I had the same feeling of cliché (although, like you say, it was probably not at the time), so I didn't even finish it. >>3420 I stop reading with no remorse, unless it's too much a classic to be bad, then I pause, and try and change my mindset approaching it.
Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin. I'm only about halfway through. I would describe it as ahead of its time, but not really in a good way. A lot of it feels cliche and like it's trying to be pretentious but failing somehow. There's not really much to analyze besides David's internal struggle between appearing masculine/straight and being with Giovanni. I guess the biggest themes are the stigmas of gayness and false appearances. Obviously Giovanni offs himself so I hope it's not as straightforward as only being because David leaves him.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3296
Has anyone here read the Farseer trilogy? I was thinking of reading it next as I'm currently on a fantasy binge.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3301
>The symposium began with organizer Anthony Uhlmann reading out a prepared statement from Murnane while the writer stood by tight-lipped; he would be present during the breaks and at the end of the day but was under no obligation to stay for the papers. Murnane didn’t stay, at least not for the first session. During the second session, he lingered in the bar, pretending to read the newspaper. During the third, he collected empty beer glasses and tinkered at the sink. I'm thinking he's based. In any event, he BTFOs Rushdie and other such popular writers
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3303
>The writer lives in a single room, where he sleeps on a folding cot among his “archives”, including filing cabinets full of notes, diaries, and early drafts of his books. These files have unusual titles: “I decide that most books are crap”; ; “My hatred for literary critics”, and: “Peter Carey exposed at last.” >Murnane prefers not to travel. He has never left Australia or flown in an aeroplane, he doesn’t appear at writers’ festivals, and has only ventured outside Victoria a handful of times. He has not watched TV or movies for decades, and has never used a computer – although he has recently acquired an iPhone on which he sends epistle-length text messages. >Instead, he spends his downtime with several complex games, which he’s developed and played throughout his adult life. The most famous of these is “the Antipodean Archive”. It’s a vast and complex horse-racing game set in two imaginary countries called New Eden and New Arcady. >Murnane has no sense of smell (to which he attributes his synesthetic perception of colour) and a prodigious memory. Before giving a recent talk, he recited every winner of the Melbourne Cup in order.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3306 >>3329
>>3306 Big If true
Currently reading a press copy of Shadow Ticket.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3307
Started reading the Upanishads last night, will probably try to finish reading Envy by Yuri Olesha this weekend, and then start knocking down the remaining Chekhov plays on my list (already finished The Seagull).
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3314
Yesterday I read a short story from 1799 on the moral pitfalls of gambling called The Lottery. Very overly-literal and straightforward but sort of charming because of it. Starting a book about cryptography called The Code Book. Written in a pretty unremarkable style but has some interesting historical anecdotes.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3318 >>3446
>>3318 Have you read the Turner Diaries? I have a weird interest in extremist literature like that for some reason. I guess it's just my inner edgelord yearning to break free.
Finished "Serpent's Walk" by M.A.R. Barker. Read it because "crypto-Nazi professor of Urdu and favorite gamemaster of Dave Arneson writes a propaganda novel under a pen name about the reemergence of the Nazis in the mid-21st century, published by the same people as the Turner Diaries" was too interesting to pass up. As a work of literature, it falls very, very short. Better written than Ayn Rand, but not by much. The speculative content though is exceptionally prescient (written in 1991) and you can see how its politics directly influenced the early BBS culture and ultimately /pol/ as well as other things downstream. You can draw a straight line from it to Sheldon Pacotti and Deus Ex, which I think is the most interesting takeaway from it. Also, makes me wonder about Elon Musk's obsession with Deus Ex, Walter Musk, and Maye Musk née Haldeman.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3326
Got pic related today, short read with sketches
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3329
>>3306
Currently reading a press copy of Shadow Ticket.
Big If true
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3336
>>3283 (OP) I'm reading the Wild Ass's Skin by Balzac. It's my first book of his and I'm really liking his descriptions and sense of place. I'm only a few pages in but already the gambling house, the streets of Paris, and the antiquities shop were so richly described and established the bleak atmosphere incredibly. Mirrors the mental state of the main character as well. Excited to continue, but class work is getting in the way at the moment.
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3338
I've had four midterms in a week, so I haven't actually read for pleasure in some time. The last book I finished was Las multitudes argentinas, by a politician of the XIX century. Now I'm going to read The Book of All Books (Calasso).
Anonymous : 28 days ago : No.3372 >>3416
>>3372 So good. I like the chapters dedicated to whale anatomy more than anything.
Moby Dick with the rsbookclub group.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3416
>>3372
Moby Dick with the rsbookclub group.
So good. I like the chapters dedicated to whale anatomy more than anything.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3420 >>3422
>>3420 Usually depends if it's a book I want to 'tick off' or one I was just taking a punt on.
>>3437
>>3420 I generally just put it aside and give it another shot later on. When i pick it up again i might find it more enjoyable to read
>>3440
>>3420 For fiction, I just put it aside. May give it a shot later. A lot of books I highly disliked at first have become my favorites. For non-fiction, I try to keep at it, albeit at a slower pace, while looking for other books or articles on the same topic.
>>3458
>>3420 Happened to me recently with the count of monte cristo. I enjoyed the book well enough, but around 750 pages in I just tailed off and then stopped reading it entirely. I guess it was fatigue, but I just started to wonder what the point of finishing the next 400 or so pages was.
>>3542
>>3292 I had the same feeling of cliché (although, like you say, it was probably not at the time), so I didn't even finish it. >>3420 I stop reading with no remorse, unless it's too much a classic to be bad, then I pause, and try and change my mindset approaching it.
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3422 >>3423
>>3422 Assuming that you chug the former and abort the latter?
>>3420
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
Usually depends if it's a book I want to 'tick off' or one I was just taking a punt on.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3423 >>3428
>>3423 Yeah pretty much
>>3422
>>3420 Usually depends if it's a book I want to 'tick off' or one I was just taking a punt on.
Assuming that you chug the former and abort the latter?
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3428
>>3423
>>3422 Assuming that you chug the former and abort the latter?
Yeah pretty much
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3437
>>3420
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
I generally just put it aside and give it another shot later on. When i pick it up again i might find it more enjoyable to read
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3440
>>3420
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
For fiction, I just put it aside. May give it a shot later. A lot of books I highly disliked at first have become my favorites. For non-fiction, I try to keep at it, albeit at a slower pace, while looking for other books or articles on the same topic.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3446 >>3478
>>3446 I haven't. I'm also drawn to extremist litature, but I've heard enough about the Turner Diaries that I don't find anything really interesting about it. Have you read the Management of Savagery or the works of Pentti Linkola?
>>3318
Finished "Serpent's Walk" by M.A.R. Barker. Read it because "crypto-Nazi professor of Urdu and favorite gamemaster of Dave Arneson writes a propaganda novel under a pen name about the reemergence of the Nazis in the mid-21st century, published by the same people as the Turner Diaries" was too interesting to pass up. As a work of literature, it falls very, very short. Better written than Ayn Rand, but not by much. The speculative content though is exceptionally prescient (written in 1991) and you can see how its politics directly influenced the early BBS culture and ultimately /pol/ as well as other things downstream. You can draw a straight line from it to Sheldon Pacotti and Deus Ex, which I think is the most interesting takeaway from it. Also, makes me wonder about Elon Musk's obsession with Deus Ex, Walter Musk, and Maye Musk née Haldeman.
Have you read the Turner Diaries? I have a weird interest in extremist literature like that for some reason. I guess it's just my inner edgelord yearning to break free.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3458 >>3461
>>3458 I liked Monte Cristo quite well, but only after reading it did I realize my version was actually an abridged 800 page version, and, to be honest, I don't think I would have thought any more highly of it had I read the unabridged. The excessive length is partly just a result of the serialized format it was initially published in. It makes for a very bloated single volume novel.
>>3420
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
Happened to me recently with the count of monte cristo. I enjoyed the book well enough, but around 750 pages in I just tailed off and then stopped reading it entirely. I guess it was fatigue, but I just started to wonder what the point of finishing the next 400 or so pages was.
Anonymous : 27 days ago : No.3461
>>3458
>>3420 Happened to me recently with the count of monte cristo. I enjoyed the book well enough, but around 750 pages in I just tailed off and then stopped reading it entirely. I guess it was fatigue, but I just started to wonder what the point of finishing the next 400 or so pages was.
I liked Monte Cristo quite well, but only after reading it did I realize my version was actually an abridged 800 page version, and, to be honest, I don't think I would have thought any more highly of it had I read the unabridged. The excessive length is partly just a result of the serialized format it was initially published in. It makes for a very bloated single volume novel.
Anonymous : 26 days ago : No.3478 >>3489
>>3478 Not that anon, but I've read Can Life Prevail and really enjoyed it. Is there any other Linkola you would recommend?
>>3446
>>3318 Have you read the Turner Diaries? I have a weird interest in extremist literature like that for some reason. I guess it's just my inner edgelord yearning to break free.
I haven't. I'm also drawn to extremist litature, but I've heard enough about the Turner Diaries that I don't find anything really interesting about it. Have you read the Management of Savagery or the works of Pentti Linkola?
Anonymous : 26 days ago : No.3488
>Twenty years ago, when I first arrived on the plains, I kept my eyes open. I looked for anything in the landscape that seemed to hint at some elaborate meaning behind appearances. >My journey to the plains was much less arduous than I afterwards described it. And I cannot even say that at a certain hour I knew I had left Australia. But I recall clearly a succession of days when the flat land around me seemed more and more a place that only I could interpret.
Anonymous : 26 days ago : No.3489 >>3495
>>3489 If you don't read Finnish, unfortunately that's the one work of his available besides a poorly translated group of secondaries essays floatibg around.
>>3478
>>3446 I haven't. I'm also drawn to extremist litature, but I've heard enough about the Turner Diaries that I don't find anything really interesting about it. Have you read the Management of Savagery or the works of Pentti Linkola?
Not that anon, but I've read Can Life Prevail and really enjoyed it. Is there any other Linkola you would recommend?
Anonymous : 26 days ago : No.3495
>>3489
>>3478 Not that anon, but I've read Can Life Prevail and really enjoyed it. Is there any other Linkola you would recommend?
If you don't read Finnish, unfortunately that's the one work of his available besides a poorly translated group of secondaries essays floatibg around.
Anonymous : 26 days ago : No.3505
/int/ et al screwed me up with Finns like modern day pan-rightism is fucking up youths' relationship to Jews and Indians; every time I encounter a Finnish person I have to physically bite my tongue to not blurt out mispronounced Finnish cursewords that were the apex of humor in 2011
Anonymous : 25 days ago : No.3534
been getting more interested in strict longform verse recently (epic poems, verse novels). not many good ones were written (or translated well enough), and it seems like much of the late 20th century revival centered around free verse rather than stricter meter and rhyme. currently digitizing picrel, going to make an epub but ive been having fun figuring out hocr, bulk image processing and everything else to make a good scanned pdf. i would recommend this book, either buying the physical version or waiting a couple weeks for my versions to pop up on annas' archive. also just bought another book by croft that i plan to digitize, its described as an epic poem so i hope he can pull off more gravitas this time
Anonymous : 25 days ago : No.3542
>>3292
Giovanni's Room by James Baldwin. I'm only about halfway through. I would describe it as ahead of its time, but not really in a good way. A lot of it feels cliche and like it's trying to be pretentious but failing somehow. There's not really much to analyze besides David's internal struggle between appearing masculine/straight and being with Giovanni. I guess the biggest themes are the stigmas of gayness and false appearances. Obviously Giovanni offs himself so I hope it's not as straightforward as only being because David leaves him.
I had the same feeling of cliché (although, like you say, it was probably not at the time), so I didn't even finish it. >>3420
If you guys dislike a book you're in the middle of, or grow to find it a slog, do you drop it or push through?
I stop reading with no remorse, unless it's too much a classic to be bad, then I pause, and try and change my mindset approaching it.
Anonymous : 16 days ago : No.4150
Who else /brandonsanderson/ bros? He's pretty based :-) actually a great writer great sense of STYLE literature is SAVED
Anonymous : 16 days ago : No.4151
Reading Xenosystems. It has been alright so far, the prose is mechanical. As someone who was a red blooded communist through the 2010s, it's very interesting to see what the 'other side' was up to during that time.
Anonymous : 3 days ago : No.4728 >>4832
>>4728 Good luck. In the original, or if translated, which translation?
I got The Search of Lost Time. This is my planned summer read (and probably autumn, winter, and some other seasons). I figured there was no reason to wait anymore to read what is supposed to be a masterpiece. I just hope I'll be able to stay that long with the same book.
Anonymous : 2 days ago : No.4764
I've been reading La derecha argentina and a biography of Savitri Devi. For fiction, I'm reading Tía Juia y el escribidor.
Anonymous : 2 days ago : No.4823
I'm reading "The Assertiveness Workbook" by Randy J Patterson. I have struggled to say no, set boundaries and speak my mind for most of my life, and would love to break free of the habits and chronic need to be agreeable at the cost of my own self-respect. I have checked out "When I say no I feel guilty" by Manuel J. Smith but a lot of the examples provided don't seem very effective.
Anonymous : 1 day ago : No.4832
>>4728
I got The Search of Lost Time. This is my planned summer read (and probably autumn, winter, and some other seasons). I figured there was no reason to wait anymore to read what is supposed to be a masterpiece. I just hope I'll be able to stay that long with the same book.
Good luck. In the original, or if translated, which translation?
Anonymous : 1 day ago : No.4844
In French. That's also why it would be ridiculous to not read it. I dread reading Joyce, but Proust wrote in my mother tongue.

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