This thread is for discussion of music and how it is reproduced. >LPs vs CDs vs Spotify vs... what else?
For me, I listen to CDs and also lossless FLAC files (into IEMs). I like LPs for their cover art but can't afford them, nor could I play them in the car.
I tried to get into the FLAC game, but I'll admit to being a spotifycel. I wish I could be motivated to DL all my music, so as to have it forever and in a better format, but I'm pretty lazy and enjoy the conveniences of streaming.
I only really buy physical media from thrift stores or what not, too expensive otherwise.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2190
>>2192
>>2190
Yeah, it definitely seems worth it and not too hard, just don't have the motivation since my needs are satisfied right now lol. I don't have any computer I could use as a server right now (no desktop etc).
>>2222 >>2280>>2190
I've been considering getting into Jellyfin just for watching TV and films on a NAS, does it have scrobbling capabilities for music? If so that might make me abandon spotify all together
>>2718
It's not too painful once you get in the groove of it. Get Nicotine+ (Soulseek client) and setup a Jellyfin server and you pretty much have your own Spotify that you can stream from from anywhere.
>>2190
>>2718
It's not too painful once you get in the groove of it. Get Nicotine+ (Soulseek client) and setup a Jellyfin server and you pretty much have your own Spotify that you can stream from from anywhere.
Yeah, it definitely seems worth it and not too hard, just don't have the motivation since my needs are satisfied right now lol. I don't have any computer I could use as a server right now (no desktop etc).
I simply have the FLACs on the home computer and the phone has converted MP3s since I can't store all those lossless files on the phone. Plus, the difference can't be heard in non-quiet environmments. The best codec AFAIK is Opus then AAC, but MP3 works on all devices
I like the look of the Technics direct-drive turntables too.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2222
>>2227
>>2222
Not really, Jellyfin is FOSS but if you've already got Plex or the crack of it it's pretty much the same.
>>2190
>>2718
It's not too painful once you get in the groove of it. Get Nicotine+ (Soulseek client) and setup a Jellyfin server and you pretty much have your own Spotify that you can stream from from anywhere.
been using regular old Soulseek and Plex, with Plexamp on my phone. is there a benefit to switching to Jellyfin?
>>2187I tried to get into the FLAC game, but I'll admit to being a spotifycel. I wish I could be motivated to DL all my music, so as to have it forever and in a better format, but I'm pretty lazy and enjoy the conveniences of streaming.
I only really buy physical media from thrift stores or what not, too expensive otherwise.
also this may be too cumbersome for most, but if you are already a CD-head then burn FLACs to CD and then listen to them on your stereo.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2223
>>2320
>>2223
I can tell the difference under a blind test with MP3 but not Opus
>>2278
Sennheiser IE 600, one of the most comfortable IEMs. It is a bit unusual too in that it uses a dyamic driver--the same sort of driver found in ordinary speakers or headphones, albeit extremely small--rather than balanced armature drivers, which were basically the only sort of driver used for IEMs until about ~2020. Opinions differ about whether the driver type actually makes any difference.
I'd like to get a pair of custom IEMs which fit my ear perfectly (they make a mold of your ears) but they cost a lot and the driver technology in them seems stale now
Chinese ones can be really great, e.g. Moondrop, they have been very popular
Can somebody explain why do you even need FLAC? Has anyone actually tried a blind test between 320 or even 256 kbps mp3 and FLAC? I bet 98% of you can’t tell the difference. inb4 I just trust my ears
>>2222
Not really, Jellyfin is FOSS but if you've already got Plex or the crack of it it's pretty much the same.
>2223
It's nice to have the lossless file in case you ever want to transcode it into a different lossy file format, but that's obviously a bit of a niche use case.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2278
>>2320
>>2223
I can tell the difference under a blind test with MP3 but not Opus
>>2278
Sennheiser IE 600, one of the most comfortable IEMs. It is a bit unusual too in that it uses a dyamic driver--the same sort of driver found in ordinary speakers or headphones, albeit extremely small--rather than balanced armature drivers, which were basically the only sort of driver used for IEMs until about ~2020. Opinions differ about whether the driver type actually makes any difference.
I'd like to get a pair of custom IEMs which fit my ear perfectly (they make a mold of your ears) but they cost a lot and the driver technology in them seems stale now
Chinese ones can be really great, e.g. Moondrop, they have been very popular
What kinda headphones / earbuds / IEMs are u lot rocking? I have a pair of cheapo Chinese earbuds that I am not even sure of the name, but they're mainly beaters for listening to music whilst conducting outdoor work.
>>2190
>>2718
It's not too painful once you get in the groove of it. Get Nicotine+ (Soulseek client) and setup a Jellyfin server and you pretty much have your own Spotify that you can stream from from anywhere.
I've been considering getting into Jellyfin just for watching TV and films on a NAS, does it have scrobbling capabilities for music? If so that might make me abandon spotify all together
>>2223
Can somebody explain why do you even need FLAC? Has anyone actually tried a blind test between 320 or even 256 kbps mp3 and FLAC? I bet 98% of you can’t tell the difference. inb4 I just trust my ears
I can tell the difference under a blind test with MP3 but not Opus
>>2278What kinda headphones / earbuds / IEMs are u lot rocking? I have a pair of cheapo Chinese earbuds that I am not even sure of the name, but they're mainly beaters for listening to music whilst conducting outdoor work.
Sennheiser IE 600, one of the most comfortable IEMs. It is a bit unusual too in that it uses a dyamic driver--the same sort of driver found in ordinary speakers or headphones, albeit extremely small--rather than balanced armature drivers, which were basically the only sort of driver used for IEMs until about ~2020. Opinions differ about whether the driver type actually makes any difference.
I'd like to get a pair of custom IEMs which fit my ear perfectly (they make a mold of your ears) but they cost a lot and the driver technology in them seems stale now
Chinese ones can be really great, e.g. Moondrop, they have been very popular
Anonymous :
16 days ago :
No.2363
>>2367
>>2363
any old one still kicking without screen or wheel issues will need a new battery, and the hard drive replaced with an SSD or SD card mod. if the time + cost of doing that is worth it to you, go for it, but you can achieve owning a separate music player device by buying a cheapo android device and leaving it in airplane mode.
Your thoughts on the iPod?
Anonymous :
16 days ago :
No.2367
>>2369
>>2367
what's the best bang for buck device for this purpose? Just any old gen phone? or is there some established meta
>>2522
>>2363
Your thoughts on the iPod?
any old one still kicking without screen or wheel issues will need a new battery, and the hard drive replaced with an SSD or SD card mod. if the time + cost of doing that is worth it to you, go for it, but you can achieve owning a separate music player device by buying a cheapo android device and leaving it in airplane mode.
Anonymous :
16 days ago :
No.2369
>>2373
>>2369
no meta that i'm aware of. try to stay south of $100 and make sure there is SD card capability of at least 128G capacity. a motorola g play is a good example.
a benefit to all this is not having to use iTunes to manage music, you can simply drag files onto the phone/card when plugged into your computer.
>>2522
>>2367
>>2363
any old one still kicking without screen or wheel issues will need a new battery, and the hard drive replaced with an SSD or SD card mod. if the time + cost of doing that is worth it to you, go for it, but you can achieve owning a separate music player device by buying a cheapo android device and leaving it in airplane mode.
what's the best bang for buck device for this purpose? Just any old gen phone? or is there some established meta
>>2369
>>2367
what's the best bang for buck device for this purpose? Just any old gen phone? or is there some established meta
no meta that i'm aware of. try to stay south of $100 and make sure there is SD card capability of at least 128G capacity. a motorola g play is a good example.
a benefit to all this is not having to use iTunes to manage music, you can simply drag files onto the phone/card when plugged into your computer.
Anonymous :
15 days ago :
No.2522
>>2997
>>2522
>$100 ching chong ipod nano
2TB is a great capacity, but is there any other reason to drop a bag on this? I guess many phones cannot support that much storage.
>>3305
>>2367
>>2363
any old one still kicking without screen or wheel issues will need a new battery, and the hard drive replaced with an SSD or SD card mod. if the time + cost of doing that is worth it to you, go for it, but you can achieve owning a separate music player device by buying a cheapo android device and leaving it in airplane mode.
The battery life is probably better with iPod Classic, plus you can click wheel. Flash it with Rockbox to use it without iTunes
>>2369>>2367
what's the best bang for buck device for this purpose? Just any old gen phone? or is there some established meta
Shanling M0 is optimized for just music listening, up to 2TB microsd
Anonymous :
12 days ago :
No.2997
>>3055
>>2997
A lot of phones in the current era don't have a headphone jack. As well as, as you say, the storage capacity, which is good for many lossless albums
There are some better digital audio players but the Shanling comes in at a good price. Some of the Sony ones are absurdly expensive
>>2522
>$100 ching chong ipod nano
2TB is a great capacity, but is there any other reason to drop a bag on this? I guess many phones cannot support that much storage.
Anonymous :
12 days ago :
No.3055
>>3305 >>3367
>>3055
I forgot about how phone companies decided to blatantly kike everyone out of a headphone jack. I'll admit to having a phone without one (Samsung) and I didn't think of making sure the model I bought had one (because I thought only Apple would do something as gay as that) and now I get pissed off whenever I have to use an adapter or BT.
>>2997
>>2522
>$100 ching chong ipod nano
2TB is a great capacity, but is there any other reason to drop a bag on this? I guess many phones cannot support that much storage.
A lot of phones in the current era don't have a headphone jack. As well as, as you say, the storage capacity, which is good for many lossless albums
There are some better digital audio players but the Shanling comes in at a good price. Some of the Sony ones are absurdly expensive
Anonymous :
10 days ago :
No.3305
>>3320
>>3305
Most people using iPod Classics now would replace the HDD with flash storage, and the old battery with a new, larger one.
Moreover the recent Rockbox release (4.0) fixed the power management bug which plagued iPod Classics which had had the HDD replaced with flash/microSD storage (as it had been unable to turn off the SATA interface when not needed)
See https://old.reddit.com/r/rockbox/comments/1jqob49/it_seems_rockbox_40_solved_the_atrocious_battery/
I think the battery life is on par with the native OS now, so long as ordinary formats are used--see https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison#iPod_Classic_40ARM926EJ_45S_41
The Shanling is pretty good, 240x240 is reasonable for that screen size. Unfortunately, it is much less sexy than the iPod Nano 6G which it is aping (see picture)
Thanks for the Moto G Play mention btw, I will check it out.
>>2522
Rockbox hits the battery pretty hard. iPod Classic batteries are nearly 20 years old too. Not much juice left in those.
>>3055
>>2997
A lot of phones in the current era don't have a headphone jack. As well as, as you say, the storage capacity, which is good for many lossless albums
There are some better digital audio players but the Shanling comes in at a good price. Some of the Sony ones are absurdly expensive
The Moto G Play mentioned earlier has headphone jack all the way up to the 2024 model.
Shanling looks interesting. How is the UI on that 20x20 speck of a screen?
>>3305
Most people using iPod Classics now would replace the HDD with flash storage, and the old battery with a new, larger one.
Moreover the recent Rockbox release (4.0) fixed the power management bug which plagued iPod Classics which had had the HDD replaced with flash/microSD storage (as it had been unable to turn off the SATA interface when not needed)
See https://old.reddit.com/r/rockbox/comments/1jqob49/it_seems_rockbox_40_solved_the_atrocious_battery/
I think the battery life is on par with the native OS now, so long as ordinary formats are used--see https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecPerformanceComparison#iPod_Classic_40ARM926EJ_45S_41
The Shanling is pretty good, 240x240 is reasonable for that screen size. Unfortunately, it is much less sexy than the iPod Nano 6G which it is aping (see picture)
Thanks for the Moto G Play mention btw, I will check it out.
>>3055
>>2997
A lot of phones in the current era don't have a headphone jack. As well as, as you say, the storage capacity, which is good for many lossless albums
There are some better digital audio players but the Shanling comes in at a good price. Some of the Sony ones are absurdly expensive
I forgot about how phone companies decided to blatantly kike everyone out of a headphone jack. I'll admit to having a phone without one (Samsung) and I didn't think of making sure the model I bought had one (because I thought only Apple would do something as gay as that) and now I get pissed off whenever I have to use an adapter or BT.