what are some things i can do to help age better? i mean like what skincare products/medication to use to keep looking youthful and hot, what exercises to stay healthy for a long life?
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Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2002
>>2005
>>2002
i thought you needed a prescription for tretinoin right? where can i get it online?
>>2126>>2002
>Tretinoin won't hurt
I understood that if you have the slightest bit of melanin, it will: more photo-sensitivity for you, so more freckles, stains etc.
Sometimes, I get obsessed with the supplements, min-maxxing, "biohacking" sphere, but I think general health is pretty obvious at this point. Do things we all consider healthy, avoid the things that aren't, and everything else is probably some degree of luck.
Tretinoin won't hurt though and is pretty cheap from India.
water. vegetables. low stress. lots of sleep. there ya go
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2005
>>2012
>>2005
There are a handful of websites (clearnet) that sell Indian pharmaceuticals internationally. AllDayChems is one off the top of my head, but there are more.
Also, it's a super easy prescription to get in the US, if you want to go legal.
>>2002
Sometimes, I get obsessed with the supplements, min-maxxing, "biohacking" sphere, but I think general health is pretty obvious at this point. Do things we all consider healthy, avoid the things that aren't, and everything else is probably some degree of luck.
Tretinoin won't hurt though and is pretty cheap from India.
i thought you needed a prescription for tretinoin right? where can i get it online?
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2012
>>2014
>>2012
of course I assumed you're merican but if not, I have no idea what your course of action is.
>>2005
>>2002
i thought you needed a prescription for tretinoin right? where can i get it online?
There are a handful of websites (clearnet) that sell Indian pharmaceuticals internationally. AllDayChems is one off the top of my head, but there are more.
Also, it's a super easy prescription to get in the US, if you want to go legal.
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2014
>>2017
>>2014
yeah i am american. i just don’t want to get hit with a bill from a dermatologist that’s somehow out-of-network lol
>>2012
>>2005
There are a handful of websites (clearnet) that sell Indian pharmaceuticals internationally. AllDayChems is one off the top of my head, but there are more.
Also, it's a super easy prescription to get in the US, if you want to go legal.
of course I assumed you're merican but if not, I have no idea what your course of action is.
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2017
>>2019
>>2017
I see, my insurance covers everyone at a local hospital near me, so I can just use their telehealth dermatologist service.
Not going to lie, I wish I had done Accutane as a teen but was scared off by the side effects. Tret helps, but I still got acne. Honestly, the acne probably makes me look more youthful, but I've always appeared younger than I am.
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2019
>>2020
>>2019
My insurance won't cover a tretinoin alternative I've switched to though, so I'll probably be trying the Indians soon myself because otherwise it's like $80 a pop.
>>2084>>2019
Wise call. I did Accutane because I wasn't concerned about the side effects and now have incurable ones. I should have waited it out.
>>2017
>>2014
yeah i am american. i just don’t want to get hit with a bill from a dermatologist that’s somehow out-of-network lol
I see, my insurance covers everyone at a local hospital near me, so I can just use their telehealth dermatologist service.
Not going to lie, I wish I had done Accutane as a teen but was scared off by the side effects. Tret helps, but I still got acne. Honestly, the acne probably makes me look more youthful, but I've always appeared younger than I am.
>>2019
>>2017
I see, my insurance covers everyone at a local hospital near me, so I can just use their telehealth dermatologist service.
Not going to lie, I wish I had done Accutane as a teen but was scared off by the side effects. Tret helps, but I still got acne. Honestly, the acne probably makes me look more youthful, but I've always appeared younger than I am.
My insurance won't cover a tretinoin alternative I've switched to though, so I'll probably be trying the Indians soon myself because otherwise it's like $80 a pop.
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2084
>>2205
>>2084
>now have incurable ones
Dry eyes? That's the one I've heard horror stories about
>>2259
>>2019
>>2017
I see, my insurance covers everyone at a local hospital near me, so I can just use their telehealth dermatologist service.
Not going to lie, I wish I had done Accutane as a teen but was scared off by the side effects. Tret helps, but I still got acne. Honestly, the acne probably makes me look more youthful, but I've always appeared younger than I am.
Wise call. I did Accutane because I wasn't concerned about the side effects and now have incurable ones. I should have waited it out.
Anonymous :
22 days ago :
No.2126
>>2150
Re tretinoin, adapalene is best for those with no or mild-to-moderate acne and attenuates the effect of time upon skin. It is well-tolerated, with few side effects. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2699641/
>>2126
You should wear sunscreen in the first place.
>>2259
>>2002
Sometimes, I get obsessed with the supplements, min-maxxing, "biohacking" sphere, but I think general health is pretty obvious at this point. Do things we all consider healthy, avoid the things that aren't, and everything else is probably some degree of luck.
Tretinoin won't hurt though and is pretty cheap from India.
>Tretinoin won't hurt
I understood that if you have the slightest bit of melanin, it will: more photo-sensitivity for you, so more freckles, stains etc.
Re tretinoin, adapalene is best for those with no or mild-to-moderate acne and attenuates the effect of time upon skin. It is well-tolerated, with few side effects. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2699641/
>>2126
>>2002
>Tretinoin won't hurt
I understood that if you have the slightest bit of melanin, it will: more photo-sensitivity for you, so more freckles, stains etc.
You should wear sunscreen in the first place.
>>2084
>>2019
Wise call. I did Accutane because I wasn't concerned about the side effects and now have incurable ones. I should have waited it out.
Damn, that sucks. Seems pretty hit or miss from what I've read anecdotally. Still, I'd like to have no more cystic acne at some point.
>>2126>>2002
>Tretinoin won't hurt
I understood that if you have the slightest bit of melanin, it will: more photo-sensitivity for you, so more freckles, stains etc.
I am lily white so I'll admit to not knowing anything about that.
Moisturize, use strong sunscreen, and avoid midday sunlight.
you can stop being a fag and stop bitching about the natural order of things
Anonymous :
21 days ago :
No.2360
>>2555
>>2360
It's going to be hilarious when this guy dies at a normal age after torturing himself in an attempt to live forever.
>>2889something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction. modern eating habits of shoving food in your mouth all day are not natural. a good way i heard it put: your body is a like a car engine. the more you start/stop it (the higher your eating frequency), the more wear/tear you put on it (accelerates inflammation throughout the body).
>>2360
accutane is weird and appears to affect everyone differently. i took it 20 years ago in high school. side effects sucked: really dry lips, horrible rashes on my forearms (which i had to get a prescription cream for that fucking shit!). acne actually got worse in the first month. but around month 4/5, it started disappearing and then vanished. side effects stopped as soon as i stopped the accutane. only lasting thing is all of the acne scars on my upper arms/chest but they're really only visible up close.
>EXTENDS YOUR LIFESPAN
Keep moving. Keep laughing. That's what I see in my older clients that are still in good mental and/or physical shape.
Anonymous :
20 days ago :
No.2555
>>2559
>>2555
...hilarious?
>>2562>>2555
He has made clear various times that he has no interest in diets, pills etc to eke out an extra 10 years of life (hence his drink habit: six beers each night). He is after radical life extension.
>>2360
>EXTENDS YOUR LIFESPAN
It's going to be hilarious when this guy dies at a normal age after torturing himself in an attempt to live forever.
Anonymous :
20 days ago :
No.2562
>>2575
>>2562
Yeah, and he's not going to get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tZ4TtGDvJw
>>2578>>2562
Sorry but literally who
>>2555
>>2360
It's going to be hilarious when this guy dies at a normal age after torturing himself in an attempt to live forever.
He has made clear various times that he has no interest in diets, pills etc to eke out an extra 10 years of life (hence his drink habit: six beers each night). He is after radical life extension.
Anonymous :
19 days ago :
No.2578
>>2579
>>2578
Aubrey de Gray
>De Grey believes that medical technology may enable human beings alive today not to die from age-related causes.
>He coined the term Methuselarity, which he defines as the moment when medical therapies will rejuvenate people enough to continue living healthily until the next improved generation of rejuvenation biotechnology, and so on, indefinitely. ... In 2022, he stated that there is a 50% chance that this breakthrough was only 15 years away.
Anonymous :
19 days ago :
No.2579
>>2580
>>2579
Seems like that Bryan Johnson fellow, except more theory based than actually actively trying to extend one's own lifespan. My experience in the medical field, albeit small, leads me to doubt this. Or maybe you could be kept alive, and not die, but in a very uncomfortable way.
>>2748>>2579
>for I shall not die
>I live at the best of times
>it is impossible for me to imagine myself dying
>and we make strides every day
>what is there in the way of progress
>as such I am confident of my own life in life
I just hope I can get my foot in the door of the immortal ruling elite living on the moon as a kind of pencil pusher to those who, in a sort of Old Testament kind of way, govern the masses of darkened remnants of Earthian society.
A mass of the very same brazilified slums and indo-arabic slavemongers of a thoroughly hindu-katholik conviction split into two states: the Negro Brazilian Empire and the Bharat-El Technomagi, fighting over the atlantic dry bed..
The chinese will of course become extinct, together with the ricans in the opening moves of WW3, as will Buddhism and protestantism. Islam awaits a similar fate in the post nuclear purges. No muslim could believe himself selected an hour after Armageddon.
I would look out from my spying glass at Earth for hundreds and hundreds or years. One day becoming the last man on the moon. Longing for death I would go down to Earth and die among the malformed florensian creatures once related to Mankind.
>>2578
>>2562
Sorry but literally who
Aubrey de Gray
>De Grey believes that medical technology may enable human beings alive today not to die from age-related causes.
>He coined the term Methuselarity, which he defines as the moment when medical therapies will rejuvenate people enough to continue living healthily until the next improved generation of rejuvenation biotechnology, and so on, indefinitely. ... In 2022, he stated that there is a 50% chance that this breakthrough was only 15 years away.
>>2579
>>2578
Aubrey de Gray
>De Grey believes that medical technology may enable human beings alive today not to die from age-related causes.
>He coined the term Methuselarity, which he defines as the moment when medical therapies will rejuvenate people enough to continue living healthily until the next improved generation of rejuvenation biotechnology, and so on, indefinitely. ... In 2022, he stated that there is a 50% chance that this breakthrough was only 15 years away.
Seems like that Bryan Johnson fellow, except more theory based than actually actively trying to extend one's own lifespan. My experience in the medical field, albeit small, leads me to doubt this. Or maybe you could be kept alive, and not die, but in a very uncomfortable way.
The anti-aging gurus are crazy. Unimaginable that people would actually seek to live beyond 60.
Anonymous :
18 days ago :
No.2747
>>2921
>>2747
If your goal is to prevent aging of the skin, sunbathing in any degree is not advisable, sunburn or not. Avoiding sunburn is good advice for everyone though.
Eat well, sleep well, do sports, don’t stress—ever, don’t work too much, but don’t be idle either, take care of your skin: oil, creme, massage and organic, sunscreen, sunbathe at every opportunity, but never get burned, take care of your hair: oil, massages, don’t stress about not doing it, but do it still…
All of these built on each other. Genetics play a huge part, too. Some people just have a different biological clock; they can still live life to the fullest and not destroy themselves or aid their body in breaking down.
Live life like you’re some kind of italian pensioner, who‘s also a 28 year old cosmopolitan socialite. Tradition and vanity.
Anonymous :
18 days ago :
No.2748
>>3364
>>2748
The thing that Arendt posits about this sort of scenario (in Human Condition) is that separation from the Earth and its natural processes would completely change the meaning of human life. What she means is that the human built world, when it's something we build and maintain against the generative and appropriative metabolisms of nature, provides humanity with a glimpse at the sort of stability that then makes it possible for human societies to live at a big-picture durable time-scale, creating the sort of political covenants that are recorded in monuments. But now if we're talking about human habitation being entirely technological, with no background of nature's metabolism but with human life as the only telos for the fallible and entropic technological system, then there's no real space for any big-picture political settlements. In that scenario the human is just a kind of qualitative display for a cyborg process that has no future except eventually breakage. The human on the Moon is just a dying candle.
>>2579
>>2578
Aubrey de Gray
>De Grey believes that medical technology may enable human beings alive today not to die from age-related causes.
>He coined the term Methuselarity, which he defines as the moment when medical therapies will rejuvenate people enough to continue living healthily until the next improved generation of rejuvenation biotechnology, and so on, indefinitely. ... In 2022, he stated that there is a 50% chance that this breakthrough was only 15 years away.
>for I shall not die
>I live at the best of times
>it is impossible for me to imagine myself dying
>and we make strides every day
>what is there in the way of progress
>as such I am confident of my own life in life
I just hope I can get my foot in the door of the immortal ruling elite living on the moon as a kind of pencil pusher to those who, in a sort of Old Testament kind of way, govern the masses of darkened remnants of Earthian society.
A mass of the very same brazilified slums and indo-arabic slavemongers of a thoroughly hindu-katholik conviction split into two states: the Negro Brazilian Empire and the Bharat-El Technomagi, fighting over the atlantic dry bed..
The chinese will of course become extinct, together with the ricans in the opening moves of WW3, as will Buddhism and protestantism. Islam awaits a similar fate in the post nuclear purges. No muslim could believe himself selected an hour after Armageddon.
I would look out from my spying glass at Earth for hundreds and hundreds or years. One day becoming the last man on the moon. Longing for death I would go down to Earth and die among the malformed florensian creatures once related to Mankind.
Anonymous :
18 days ago :
No.2753
>>2760
>>2753
>Facebook bans my ads because they say my stuff cannot save lives. Google, Youtube, and Bing ban my ads too because they don't allow natural cure products.
This could be a parody.
Alex Chiu magnetic immortality rings.
http://www.alexchiu.com/
He's my favorite schizo Taiwanese dude but for real I've been wearing his rings since I was 16 years old when I got them for free from a link exchange program and I'm 34 now and everyone still thinks I'm in my early 20s despite alcoholism.
Other things worth trying are schisandra chinensis and some other Chinese herbs. Skin care creams and all that are literally only skin deep, only more chi flow matters.
>>2753
Alex Chiu magnetic immortality rings.
http://www.alexchiu.com/
He's my favorite schizo Taiwanese dude but for real I've been wearing his rings since I was 16 years old when I got them for free from a link exchange program and I'm 34 now and everyone still thinks I'm in my early 20s despite alcoholism.
Other things worth trying are schisandra chinensis and some other Chinese herbs. Skin care creams and all that are literally only skin deep, only more chi flow matters.
>Facebook bans my ads because they say my stuff cannot save lives. Google, Youtube, and Bing ban my ads too because they don't allow natural cure products.
This could be a parody.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2889
>>2923
>>2889
Do you fast?
>>3141>>2889
>something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction
How do you develop the willpower? I could do it for a day, however the day after I'm just craving and losing myself in junk food
something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction. modern eating habits of shoving food in your mouth all day are not natural. a good way i heard it put: your body is a like a car engine. the more you start/stop it (the higher your eating frequency), the more wear/tear you put on it (accelerates inflammation throughout the body).
>>2360
>EXTENDS YOUR LIFESPAN
accutane is weird and appears to affect everyone differently. i took it 20 years ago in high school. side effects sucked: really dry lips, horrible rashes on my forearms (which i had to get a prescription cream for that fucking shit!). acne actually got worse in the first month. but around month 4/5, it started disappearing and then vanished. side effects stopped as soon as i stopped the accutane. only lasting thing is all of the acne scars on my upper arms/chest but they're really only visible up close.
>>2747
Eat well, sleep well, do sports, don’t stress—ever, don’t work too much, but don’t be idle either, take care of your skin: oil, creme, massage and organic, sunscreen, sunbathe at every opportunity, but never get burned, take care of your hair: oil, massages, don’t stress about not doing it, but do it still…
All of these built on each other. Genetics play a huge part, too. Some people just have a different biological clock; they can still live life to the fullest and not destroy themselves or aid their body in breaking down.
Live life like you’re some kind of italian pensioner, who‘s also a 28 year old cosmopolitan socialite. Tradition and vanity.
If your goal is to prevent aging of the skin, sunbathing in any degree is not advisable, sunburn or not. Avoiding sunburn is good advice for everyone though.
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2923
>>3048
>>2977
most diets nowadays are cults. the american diet is so normalized that eating whole foods is basically on the fringes nowadays.
>>2923
i can kind of fast. most i can do nowadays is 24 hours since my willpower is shot from too much drinking. i used to be able to do 72 hours like it was nothing, not that that is that impressive. the sweet spot for fasting and getting the benefits of autophagy is ~48-72 hour which honestly isn't that hard to achieve. eat 1 big meal, and then fast the entire next day.
>>2889
something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction. modern eating habits of shoving food in your mouth all day are not natural. a good way i heard it put: your body is a like a car engine. the more you start/stop it (the higher your eating frequency), the more wear/tear you put on it (accelerates inflammation throughout the body).
>>2360
accutane is weird and appears to affect everyone differently. i took it 20 years ago in high school. side effects sucked: really dry lips, horrible rashes on my forearms (which i had to get a prescription cream for that fucking shit!). acne actually got worse in the first month. but around month 4/5, it started disappearing and then vanished. side effects stopped as soon as i stopped the accutane. only lasting thing is all of the acne scars on my upper arms/chest but they're really only visible up close.
Do you fast?
To age better and stay youthful and vibrant long-term, Ray Peat emphasized supporting your metabolism, especially the thyroid, while minimizing stress and inflammation at the cellular level. Focus on pro-metabolic foods like ripe fruits, orange juice, milk, cheese, eggs, and gelatin. Avoid polyunsaturated fats like fish oil, soy, corn, and safflower oil since they promote oxidative stress and suppress thyroid function. Favor saturated fats from butter, coconut oil, and healthy animals. Small doses of desiccated thyroid, like Armour, can help shift energy production toward glucose rather than fat, reducing harmful lactic acid and cortisol production. For skincare, use topical vitamin E, retinyl palmitate (vitamin A), and avoid estrogenic products. Estrogen promotes inflammation and tissue breakdown, while progesterone and pregnenolone support regeneration and youthful structure. Sunlight is beneficial when calcium and vitamin D are adequate since it stops aging when oxidative stress is low. Exercise should be restorative, not depleting—brisk walking or light biking under 120 bpm pulse helps maintain thyroid function without triggering stress hormones. This mix of protective diet, balanced hormones, gentle movement, and smart sun exposure lays the foundation for long-lasting health and appearance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2F8xLQMvw
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2977
>>2995
>>2977
not the Peatposter, but I like the Peat diet because it seems like a relic of antiquity. I have not seen any convincing "evidence" to point towards the veracity of Peat, outside of the obvious like sunlight good, whole foods good. however it resembles something that a Greek or Roman might prescribe. Foods that elevate something in the body unbeknownst to us. It's in the category of so crazy it might work, for me. Peaters have kind of a cultist like quality though, which is off putting.
>>3048>>2977
most diets nowadays are cults. the american diet is so normalized that eating whole foods is basically on the fringes nowadays.
>>2923
i can kind of fast. most i can do nowadays is 24 hours since my willpower is shot from too much drinking. i used to be able to do 72 hours like it was nothing, not that that is that impressive. the sweet spot for fasting and getting the benefits of autophagy is ~48-72 hour which honestly isn't that hard to achieve. eat 1 big meal, and then fast the entire next day.
>>2924
To age better and stay youthful and vibrant long-term, Ray Peat emphasized supporting your metabolism, especially the thyroid, while minimizing stress and inflammation at the cellular level. Focus on pro-metabolic foods like ripe fruits, orange juice, milk, cheese, eggs, and gelatin. Avoid polyunsaturated fats like fish oil, soy, corn, and safflower oil since they promote oxidative stress and suppress thyroid function. Favor saturated fats from butter, coconut oil, and healthy animals. Small doses of desiccated thyroid, like Armour, can help shift energy production toward glucose rather than fat, reducing harmful lactic acid and cortisol production. For skincare, use topical vitamin E, retinyl palmitate (vitamin A), and avoid estrogenic products. Estrogen promotes inflammation and tissue breakdown, while progesterone and pregnenolone support regeneration and youthful structure. Sunlight is beneficial when calcium and vitamin D are adequate since it stops aging when oxidative stress is low. Exercise should be restorative, not depleting—brisk walking or light biking under 120 bpm pulse helps maintain thyroid function without triggering stress hormones. This mix of protective diet, balanced hormones, gentle movement, and smart sun exposure lays the foundation for long-lasting health and appearance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb2F8xLQMvw
>red meat, sugar GOOD
>fish oil, chicken BAD
haven't heard this one before
Anonymous :
17 days ago :
No.2995
>>3876
>>2995
I don't think that's true of Antiquity. I think even back then, they would generally have supposed that a vegetarian diet (or something along those lines) is in theory the most healthy. One example that comes to mind is Book 2 of The Republic, where Socrates starts out by proposing a kind of vegetarian diet for the inhabitants of their ideal city, but relents when Glaucon objects that such a diet is one fit for pigs (not in the sense of gluttons, but in the sense of animals not used to the human luxuries of their day). Socrates allows meats like pork and beef, but also says that this will mean they have greater need of doctors than before, to which Glaucon agrees.
>And we shall have need, further, of swineherds; there were none of these creatures in our former city, for we had no need of them, but in this city there will be this further need; and we shall also require other cattle in great numbers if they are to be eaten, [373d] shall we not?” “Yes.” “Doctors, too, are something whose services we shall be much more likely to require if we live thus than as before?” “Much.”
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Rep.+2
>>2977
not the Peatposter, but I like the Peat diet because it seems like a relic of antiquity. I have not seen any convincing "evidence" to point towards the veracity of Peat, outside of the obvious like sunlight good, whole foods good. however it resembles something that a Greek or Roman might prescribe. Foods that elevate something in the body unbeknownst to us. It's in the category of so crazy it might work, for me. Peaters have kind of a cultist like quality though, which is off putting.
the Rape Eat diet
>>2977
most diets nowadays are cults. the american diet is so normalized that eating whole foods is basically on the fringes nowadays.
>>2923
>>2889
Do you fast?
i can kind of fast. most i can do nowadays is 24 hours since my willpower is shot from too much drinking. i used to be able to do 72 hours like it was nothing, not that that is that impressive. the sweet spot for fasting and getting the benefits of autophagy is ~48-72 hour which honestly isn't that hard to achieve. eat 1 big meal, and then fast the entire next day.
Check out George Hackenschmidt's book The Way To Live sometime. He was an oldschool wrestler and strongman/bodybuilder from the late 19th to early 20th century and he was able to jump over chairs and body slam people well into his 60s due to his training and approach to health.
For me it's painful face massages by physiotherapists. I've been doing them at least every two weeks since I was 30 (I'm almost 39 now) because I have chronic muscle pain in the muscles of my face, the physiotherapists even puts their thumb (with a glove) inside my mouth to massage my cheek, my face looks less wrinkled than 10 years ago.
All these BS creams people put on their faces do nothing about the muscles underneath, and the state of your face muscles are an important part of how young you look.
Anonymous :
15 days ago :
No.3141
>>3181
>>3141
not anon, but I agree. Fasting does seem good in theory, both for health reasons and spiritual/moral ones, except I don't think I could do it. I already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry. I can see the "threshold" concept being real however, that is, your body will get used to it and kick its starvation/hunger protocols into place once it "understands" that you are not going to or able to eat.
Plus, I don't personally really fall to the temptation of junk food, but I enjoy cooking and eating my creations a little too much.
>>2889
something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction. modern eating habits of shoving food in your mouth all day are not natural. a good way i heard it put: your body is a like a car engine. the more you start/stop it (the higher your eating frequency), the more wear/tear you put on it (accelerates inflammation throughout the body).
>>2360
accutane is weird and appears to affect everyone differently. i took it 20 years ago in high school. side effects sucked: really dry lips, horrible rashes on my forearms (which i had to get a prescription cream for that fucking shit!). acne actually got worse in the first month. but around month 4/5, it started disappearing and then vanished. side effects stopped as soon as i stopped the accutane. only lasting thing is all of the acne scars on my upper arms/chest but they're really only visible up close.
>something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction
How do you develop the willpower? I could do it for a day, however the day after I'm just craving and losing myself in junk food
Anonymous :
15 days ago :
No.3181
>>3348
>>3181
>already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry.
you need to continue taking electrolytes when fasting. search up snake diet on youtube, that guy has a good recipe for it.
>>3141
>>2889
>something no one has mentioned here yet: fasting and caloric restriction
How do you develop the willpower? I could do it for a day, however the day after I'm just craving and losing myself in junk food
not anon, but I agree. Fasting does seem good in theory, both for health reasons and spiritual/moral ones, except I don't think I could do it. I already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry. I can see the "threshold" concept being real however, that is, your body will get used to it and kick its starvation/hunger protocols into place once it "understands" that you are not going to or able to eat.
Plus, I don't personally really fall to the temptation of junk food, but I enjoy cooking and eating my creations a little too much.
Anonymous :
14 days ago :
No.3348
>>3360
>>3348
Im pretty sure I moreso suffer a sensitivity to low blood sugar than necessarily low electrolytes
>>3181
>>3141
not anon, but I agree. Fasting does seem good in theory, both for health reasons and spiritual/moral ones, except I don't think I could do it. I already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry. I can see the "threshold" concept being real however, that is, your body will get used to it and kick its starvation/hunger protocols into place once it "understands" that you are not going to or able to eat.
Plus, I don't personally really fall to the temptation of junk food, but I enjoy cooking and eating my creations a little too much.
>already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry.
you need to continue taking electrolytes when fasting. search up snake diet on youtube, that guy has a good recipe for it.
>>3348
>>3181
>already get very hangry, lightheaded, can't think straight, when I am hungry.
you need to continue taking electrolytes when fasting. search up snake diet on youtube, that guy has a good recipe for it.
Im pretty sure I moreso suffer a sensitivity to low blood sugar than necessarily low electrolytes
>>2748
>>2579
>for I shall not die
>I live at the best of times
>it is impossible for me to imagine myself dying
>and we make strides every day
>what is there in the way of progress
>as such I am confident of my own life in life
I just hope I can get my foot in the door of the immortal ruling elite living on the moon as a kind of pencil pusher to those who, in a sort of Old Testament kind of way, govern the masses of darkened remnants of Earthian society.
A mass of the very same brazilified slums and indo-arabic slavemongers of a thoroughly hindu-katholik conviction split into two states: the Negro Brazilian Empire and the Bharat-El Technomagi, fighting over the atlantic dry bed..
The chinese will of course become extinct, together with the ricans in the opening moves of WW3, as will Buddhism and protestantism. Islam awaits a similar fate in the post nuclear purges. No muslim could believe himself selected an hour after Armageddon.
I would look out from my spying glass at Earth for hundreds and hundreds or years. One day becoming the last man on the moon. Longing for death I would go down to Earth and die among the malformed florensian creatures once related to Mankind.
The thing that Arendt posits about this sort of scenario (in Human Condition) is that separation from the Earth and its natural processes would completely change the meaning of human life. What she means is that the human built world, when it's something we build and maintain against the generative and appropriative metabolisms of nature, provides humanity with a glimpse at the sort of stability that then makes it possible for human societies to live at a big-picture durable time-scale, creating the sort of political covenants that are recorded in monuments. But now if we're talking about human habitation being entirely technological, with no background of nature's metabolism but with human life as the only telos for the fallible and entropic technological system, then there's no real space for any big-picture political settlements. In that scenario the human is just a kind of qualitative display for a cyborg process that has no future except eventually breakage. The human on the Moon is just a dying candle.
supplementbros, what's your current stack + judge my stack
1 tbs whole psyllium husk, 100mg coq10, 500mg NAC, 350 mg magnesium biglycinate, 1,000 mcg B12, sometimes 1 Kirkland multi vitamin because I have so many of them lol. in the past I've used ashwaganda to little effect.
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.3850
>>3869
>>3850
UV exposure link to skin cancer is well established as far as I know. I've checked just to make sure, look at this study on 90K women: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5742376/
So yeah, it's strongly correlated, but there are nuances (age, type of cancer, sunscreen use, when the sunburn happened).
Tanning feels more like a body wide scab over a lot of small sun wounds than a regulation.
>>3877>>3850
Setting aside the question of skin cancer (which is no small concern), look at the skin of any beach beach bum as they age. Have you ever seen the chest a woman who habitually wears v-necks but covers the rest of her torso, so she has a permanent v-shaped patch of rough speckled skin surrounded by comparatively healthy looking skin? Simple experience shows how much damage the sun inflicts on our skin. If you consider physical appearance any part of "aging better" and don't want to have crocodile skin, then limiting sun exposure is the single most important thing you can do.
On the tanning question: is there actually any evidence that sun exposure to the point of tanning (for simplicity's sake, I mean just being in the sun, not even tanning salon style) will increase your risk of skin cancer? I have heard it repeated ad nauseam in a priori style arguments that the mechanism for tanning is inherently skin damage and will increase your risk of aging and cancer (I grant the former). But, in an analogous example, one can survive in hot weather without succumbing to heat exhaustion or heat stroke, with proper precautions. The body is able to regulate heat well, unless it has some sort of structural problem or poor treatment. Is tanning not the ability of the skin to regulate UV exposure? I frequently backpack and such and have encountered people on both sides of the question (ppl who try to never show their skin vs ppl who think if you cover up you're going to die from vitamin d deficiency). Wondering what the truth is.
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.3869
>>3882
>>3877
>>3869
Alright I realized that it was a retarded question pretty soon after. I just like the sun and being in the sun and it's a damn shame that it will try to kill you. I'm a lily white burn not tan kind of whitey so I slap on the sunscreen and sun protective clothes.
The gnarliest aged skin I've seen was actually on a ski bum who taught me to ski, he was like 70 years old and had leathery skin all over his face except around his eyes where ski goggles would go lol.
>>3850
On the tanning question: is there actually any evidence that sun exposure to the point of tanning (for simplicity's sake, I mean just being in the sun, not even tanning salon style) will increase your risk of skin cancer? I have heard it repeated ad nauseam in a priori style arguments that the mechanism for tanning is inherently skin damage and will increase your risk of aging and cancer (I grant the former). But, in an analogous example, one can survive in hot weather without succumbing to heat exhaustion or heat stroke, with proper precautions. The body is able to regulate heat well, unless it has some sort of structural problem or poor treatment. Is tanning not the ability of the skin to regulate UV exposure? I frequently backpack and such and have encountered people on both sides of the question (ppl who try to never show their skin vs ppl who think if you cover up you're going to die from vitamin d deficiency). Wondering what the truth is.
UV exposure link to skin cancer is well established as far as I know. I've checked just to make sure, look at this study on 90K women: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5742376/
So yeah, it's strongly correlated, but there are nuances (age, type of cancer, sunscreen use, when the sunburn happened).
Tanning feels more like a body wide scab over a lot of small sun wounds than a regulation.
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.3876
>>3934
>>3876
I suppose I was conflating periods or practices. That's an interesting point from the Republic, though, I forgot about the "city for pigs" aspect.
>>2995
>>2977
not the Peatposter, but I like the Peat diet because it seems like a relic of antiquity. I have not seen any convincing "evidence" to point towards the veracity of Peat, outside of the obvious like sunlight good, whole foods good. however it resembles something that a Greek or Roman might prescribe. Foods that elevate something in the body unbeknownst to us. It's in the category of so crazy it might work, for me. Peaters have kind of a cultist like quality though, which is off putting.
I don't think that's true of Antiquity. I think even back then, they would generally have supposed that a vegetarian diet (or something along those lines) is in theory the most healthy. One example that comes to mind is Book 2 of The Republic, where Socrates starts out by proposing a kind of vegetarian diet for the inhabitants of their ideal city, but relents when Glaucon objects that such a diet is one fit for pigs (not in the sense of gluttons, but in the sense of animals not used to the human luxuries of their day). Socrates allows meats like pork and beef, but also says that this will mean they have greater need of doctors than before, to which Glaucon agrees.
>And we shall have need, further, of swineherds; there were none of these creatures in our former city, for we had no need of them, but in this city there will be this further need; and we shall also require other cattle in great numbers if they are to be eaten, [373d] shall we not?” “Yes.” “Doctors, too, are something whose services we shall be much more likely to require if we live thus than as before?” “Much.”
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Rep.+2
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.3877
>>3882
>>3877
>>3869
Alright I realized that it was a retarded question pretty soon after. I just like the sun and being in the sun and it's a damn shame that it will try to kill you. I'm a lily white burn not tan kind of whitey so I slap on the sunscreen and sun protective clothes.
The gnarliest aged skin I've seen was actually on a ski bum who taught me to ski, he was like 70 years old and had leathery skin all over his face except around his eyes where ski goggles would go lol.
>>3850
On the tanning question: is there actually any evidence that sun exposure to the point of tanning (for simplicity's sake, I mean just being in the sun, not even tanning salon style) will increase your risk of skin cancer? I have heard it repeated ad nauseam in a priori style arguments that the mechanism for tanning is inherently skin damage and will increase your risk of aging and cancer (I grant the former). But, in an analogous example, one can survive in hot weather without succumbing to heat exhaustion or heat stroke, with proper precautions. The body is able to regulate heat well, unless it has some sort of structural problem or poor treatment. Is tanning not the ability of the skin to regulate UV exposure? I frequently backpack and such and have encountered people on both sides of the question (ppl who try to never show their skin vs ppl who think if you cover up you're going to die from vitamin d deficiency). Wondering what the truth is.
Setting aside the question of skin cancer (which is no small concern), look at the skin of any beach beach bum as they age. Have you ever seen the chest a woman who habitually wears v-necks but covers the rest of her torso, so she has a permanent v-shaped patch of rough speckled skin surrounded by comparatively healthy looking skin? Simple experience shows how much damage the sun inflicts on our skin. If you consider physical appearance any part of "aging better" and don't want to have crocodile skin, then limiting sun exposure is the single most important thing you can do.
>>3877
>>3850
Setting aside the question of skin cancer (which is no small concern), look at the skin of any beach beach bum as they age. Have you ever seen the chest a woman who habitually wears v-necks but covers the rest of her torso, so she has a permanent v-shaped patch of rough speckled skin surrounded by comparatively healthy looking skin? Simple experience shows how much damage the sun inflicts on our skin. If you consider physical appearance any part of "aging better" and don't want to have crocodile skin, then limiting sun exposure is the single most important thing you can do.
>>3869>>3850
UV exposure link to skin cancer is well established as far as I know. I've checked just to make sure, look at this study on 90K women: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5742376/
So yeah, it's strongly correlated, but there are nuances (age, type of cancer, sunscreen use, when the sunburn happened).
Tanning feels more like a body wide scab over a lot of small sun wounds than a regulation.
Alright I realized that it was a retarded question pretty soon after. I just like the sun and being in the sun and it's a damn shame that it will try to kill you. I'm a lily white burn not tan kind of whitey so I slap on the sunscreen and sun protective clothes.
The gnarliest aged skin I've seen was actually on a ski bum who taught me to ski, he was like 70 years old and had leathery skin all over his face except around his eyes where ski goggles would go lol.
Anonymous :
8 days ago :
No.3894
>>3930
>>3894
damned if you do damned if you don't
>>4005>>3894
After seeing a doctor for the first time in a few years, my vitamin D was barely within the healthy range so I was prescribed vitamin D. I no longer feel exhausted after lifting weights, and I do better with less sleep now. Sun light is nice and all, but it getting it in pill form really saved me this winter.
over 90% of Vitamin D is produced from the action of UV-B on precursors in the skin btw.
>>3876
>>2995
I don't think that's true of Antiquity. I think even back then, they would generally have supposed that a vegetarian diet (or something along those lines) is in theory the most healthy. One example that comes to mind is Book 2 of The Republic, where Socrates starts out by proposing a kind of vegetarian diet for the inhabitants of their ideal city, but relents when Glaucon objects that such a diet is one fit for pigs (not in the sense of gluttons, but in the sense of animals not used to the human luxuries of their day). Socrates allows meats like pork and beef, but also says that this will mean they have greater need of doctors than before, to which Glaucon agrees.
>And we shall have need, further, of swineherds; there were none of these creatures in our former city, for we had no need of them, but in this city there will be this further need; and we shall also require other cattle in great numbers if they are to be eaten, [373d] shall we not?” “Yes.” “Doctors, too, are something whose services we shall be much more likely to require if we live thus than as before?” “Much.”
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plat.+Rep.+2
I suppose I was conflating periods or practices. That's an interesting point from the Republic, though, I forgot about the "city for pigs" aspect.
Cleanse, moisturise and use sunscreen. Take Vitamin D supplements if you don't go outside often.
I've heard good things about skincare products which include retinol, and collagen is pretty good too. Also, wearing some sort of sunscreen is useful in terms of reducing overall damage to your skin over time.
Just do adapalene bro
>>3894
over 90% of Vitamin D is produced from the action of UV-B on precursors in the skin btw.
After seeing a doctor for the first time in a few years, my vitamin D was barely within the healthy range so I was prescribed vitamin D. I no longer feel exhausted after lifting weights, and I do better with less sleep now. Sun light is nice and all, but it getting it in pill form really saved me this winter.
anyone care to improve my skincare routine :
AM
1. water rinse
2. round lab 1025 dokdo toner
3. dapsone gel 7.5%
4. the ordinary marula oil
5. clinique city block spf 50
PM
1. la roche posay purifying Foaming Cleanser
2. dokdo toner
3. Arazlo 0.045%
4. marula oil
This routine has worked pretty well to stop a lot of my cystic acne, but I still break out on my chin and jaw like once a month. I live in a very dry environment.
>>4083
anyone care to improve my skincare routine :
AM
1. water rinse
2. round lab 1025 dokdo toner
3. dapsone gel 7.5%
4. the ordinary marula oil
5. clinique city block spf 50
PM
1. la roche posay purifying Foaming Cleanser
2. dokdo toner
3. Arazlo 0.045%
4. marula oil
This routine has worked pretty well to stop a lot of my cystic acne, but I still break out on my chin and jaw like once a month. I live in a very dry environment.
also is oil cleansing worth the meme?