Finally got booted off of old reddit and redirected to the login screen. I knew it was coming but man, what an end to 15 years of usage.
Scratch that, it only redirects me on a US IP. Americucks absolutely blown the fuck out lmao
On a Euro IP I get the redirect on /new for subreddits. It's coming eventually anyway. Bah
Anonymous :
49 days ago :
No.11274
>>11275
>>11274
I figured someone would do a Nitter-type intermediary. Will try it out in the next few days. What a nightmare.
This is being rolled out all over the world
I refuse to login.
There's a reddit viewer called Redlib (github.com/redlib-org/redlib) which is meant to work like Nitter does for Twitter, but I've never tried to use it.
New Reddit is very poorly designed.
Anonymous :
49 days ago :
No.11275
>>11364
>>11275
There's a Firefox extension called LibRedirect that'll point all Reddit links to Redlib. Also works for X/Xcanceled.
>>11274
This is being rolled out all over the world
I refuse to login.
There's a reddit viewer called Redlib (github.com/redlib-org/redlib) which is meant to work like Nitter does for Twitter, but I've never tried to use it.
New Reddit is very poorly designed.
I figured someone would do a Nitter-type intermediary. Will try it out in the next few days. What a nightmare.
Anonymous :
48 days ago :
No.11287
>>11288
>>11287
Never used this, but unless Chance is a proxy for Reddit somehow I doubt it'll work properly in regions where Old Reddit is blocked. I bet (again, I've not looked at it) that it works by interpreting the HTML of websites, but New Reddit doesn't use proper HTML, but some execrable Javashit PWA.
>>11359>>11287
>>11356
Thanks for the recs. I am a desktop user though. For now I've avoided getting the redirect by using a European IP (residential, haven't done any testing with VPNs). I don't know why reddit would bother halfway rolling out this change if their stated reason about combating spam and bots were the case, as Eastern Europe has no shortage of that sort of activity, but whatever.
try Chance if you're on mobile: github.com / moffatman / chan (remove spaces)
it's an imageboard browser and it supports reddit and doesn't have ads. you can only view stuff there's no way to log in but it's better than going on reddit's official app.
Anonymous :
48 days ago :
No.11288
>>11292
>>11288
it works by scraping reddit’s content as json and then converting that to ui elements instead of interpreting the html. it doesn’t use old or new reddit as a proxy, so unless reddit removes their json endpoint then it should work.
>>11287
try Chance if you're on mobile: github.com / moffatman / chan (remove spaces)
it's an imageboard browser and it supports reddit and doesn't have ads. you can only view stuff there's no way to log in but it's better than going on reddit's official app.
Never used this, but unless Chance is a proxy for Reddit somehow I doubt it'll work properly in regions where Old Reddit is blocked. I bet (again, I've not looked at it) that it works by interpreting the HTML of websites, but New Reddit doesn't use proper HTML, but some execrable Javashit PWA.
>>11269 (OP)
>newredditcuck
Lmao.
>>11288
>>11287
Never used this, but unless Chance is a proxy for Reddit somehow I doubt it'll work properly in regions where Old Reddit is blocked. I bet (again, I've not looked at it) that it works by interpreting the HTML of websites, but New Reddit doesn't use proper HTML, but some execrable Javashit PWA.
it works by scraping reddit’s content as json and then converting that to ui elements instead of interpreting the html. it doesn’t use old or new reddit as a proxy, so unless reddit removes their json endpoint then it should work.
Anonymous :
46 days ago :
No.11356
>>11359
>>11287
>>11356
Thanks for the recs. I am a desktop user though. For now I've avoided getting the redirect by using a European IP (residential, haven't done any testing with VPNs). I don't know why reddit would bother halfway rolling out this change if their stated reason about combating spam and bots were the case, as Eastern Europe has no shortage of that sort of activity, but whatever.
I use RedReader off fdroid for reddit. I think its the only 3rd party client that's still used due to accessibility reasons or something.
>>11287
try Chance if you're on mobile: github.com / moffatman / chan (remove spaces)
it's an imageboard browser and it supports reddit and doesn't have ads. you can only view stuff there's no way to log in but it's better than going on reddit's official app.
>>11356I use RedReader off fdroid for reddit. I think its the only 3rd party client that's still used due to accessibility reasons or something.
Thanks for the recs. I am a desktop user though. For now I've avoided getting the redirect by using a European IP (residential, haven't done any testing with VPNs). I don't know why reddit would bother halfway rolling out this change if their stated reason about combating spam and bots were the case, as Eastern Europe has no shortage of that sort of activity, but whatever.
Thanks posters, you are doing God's work.
None of the nitter instances listed in the github wiki are working.
Some show the search page but either stall or say the instance is out of tokens when you try to use them.
It's over
I am working on an algorithmic feed blocker that lets you view tweets without having to look at the for you tab
Anonymous :
24 days ago :
No.11817
>>11821
>>11817
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitter
>Nitter relied on a glitch that allowed creating a large amount of "guest accounts" using proxy servers in order to fetch content. It now relies [read: relied] on using registered account tokens to access the site, as Twitter has removed the ability to create guest accounts, and heavily restricts access to logged-out users.
Seems to me that what caused Nitter, XCancel, et al. to shut down were the cease-and-desist letters, not a technical reason. X can and did revoke API keys without much trouble, but Nitter used fake accounts which scraped GraphQL/JSON endpoints from the browser and converted them to display on the Nitter HTML interface. This made it hard to detect, if you had a sufficient number of fake accounts.
Probably, X's legal threats are without basis and in any event not enforceable in Europe. Since Nitter had the support of the NLnet Foundation, Nitter could well come back after consulting with lawyers.
>>11817
Well, you already can make videos private, but then the videos are private.
Probably, there is no way to stop services like yt-dlp, although I've wondered if WebAssembly in browsers will cause YouTube to eventually build little browsers-within-your-browser as a kind of strong form of DRM. Imagine that every time you want to watch a YouTube video, you have to spin up a virtual machine.
Nah it's ultra over because Nitter et al rely on API keys which can be revoked. That's why they couldn't catch yt-dlp since Youtube doesn't ask for API keys to access it. I won't be surprised in the future if YT moves to a tiered model where some videos are locked behind API creds. Obviously it won't be the whole site, at least not any time soon, because it's too big and already quasi-public infrastructure.
Hate hate hate this internet
>>11817
Nah it's ultra over because Nitter et al rely on API keys which can be revoked. That's why they couldn't catch yt-dlp since Youtube doesn't ask for API keys to access it. I won't be surprised in the future if YT moves to a tiered model where some videos are locked behind API creds. Obviously it won't be the whole site, at least not any time soon, because it's too big and already quasi-public infrastructure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitter
>Nitter relied on a glitch that allowed creating a large amount of "guest accounts" using proxy servers in order to fetch content. It now relies [read: relied] on using registered account tokens to access the site, as Twitter has removed the ability to create guest accounts, and heavily restricts access to logged-out users.
Seems to me that what caused Nitter, XCancel, et al. to shut down were the cease-and-desist letters, not a technical reason. X can and did revoke API keys without much trouble, but Nitter used fake accounts which scraped GraphQL/JSON endpoints from the browser and converted them to display on the Nitter HTML interface. This made it hard to detect, if you had a sufficient number of fake accounts.
Probably, X's legal threats are without basis and in any event not enforceable in Europe. Since Nitter had the support of the NLnet Foundation, Nitter could well come back after consulting with lawyers.
>>11817Nah it's ultra over because Nitter et al rely on API keys which can be revoked. That's why they couldn't catch yt-dlp since Youtube doesn't ask for API keys to access it. I won't be surprised in the future if YT moves to a tiered model where some videos are locked behind API creds. Obviously it won't be the whole site, at least not any time soon, because it's too big and already quasi-public infrastructure.
Well, you already can make videos private, but then the videos are private.
Probably, there is no way to stop services like yt-dlp, although I've wondered if WebAssembly in browsers will cause YouTube to eventually build little browsers-within-your-browser as a kind of strong form of DRM. Imagine that every time you want to watch a YouTube video, you have to spin up a virtual machine.
The fact X Corp resorted to legal threats rather than technical countermeasures is probably a positive sign, in that it meant that X probably can't tell apart Nitter traffic from real traffic if proxy routing and account token management are used properly. None of the information about how to do this was ever in the official Nitter repo, but it's not hard to work out how to do it. So it actually proves that Nitter can't be defeated on a technical level.
This is the reason they want to push you toward apps, by the way, anything with a web browser presence can be potentially Nitter'd because the information has to actually be displayed somehow to the user, and that can just be redirected. Maybe, in 10 or so years, everything will just be on apps, and the apps have certificate pinning so you can't MITM your own connection!
They just killed twitterwebviewer too lmao
Probably, the reason all the Nitter instances went down at the same time is because the Nitter developer, Zed, was the maintainer of a service which produced "guest accounts" for other Nitter instances to use. This meant those instances didn't need to use proxy IPs. Once somebody spools up such a service again, Nitter could come back.
There are still some Nitter instances which work.
Excuse me???
I capitulated and made an account just to access the fucking old.reddit.com site. Then they give me this shit like I'm running a bot farm. To "verify" it asks for some biometric crap which I obviously wouldn't provide even if I wanted to get the Linux drivers working. Then a few hours later it just permanently suspends my account. I wouldn't care except for the fact that when you're banned you CAN'T SEE OLD.REDDIT.COM! Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>12024
Excuse me???
I capitulated and made an account just to access the fucking old.reddit.com site. Then they give me this shit like I'm running a bot farm. To "verify" it asks for some biometric crap which I obviously wouldn't provide even if I wanted to get the Linux drivers working. Then a few hours later it just permanently suspends my account. I wouldn't care except for the fact that when you're banned you CAN'T SEE OLD.REDDIT.COM! Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Just download the old Reddit redirector extension for Chrome or Firefox. >>11801Update on the Situation: the old reddit redirect firefox extension now allows you to access old reddit without an account
Nitter back down.
Wonder what to make of the "We can't share more details" part.