get ridiculed for my tastes often. people say i'm "performative". i talk to people about my favorite movies and they say "that's too boring". frankly, i'm tired of it. i'm tired of dealing with low IQ, low curiosity, stupid people who quite literally don't get it. they just don't get it and i'm tired of explaining
The curse of the autodidact, born with taste but cursed to live in a lower sociocultural rung. The upper classes won't have you in their ranks, but you know what? In Anno Domini 2026 the sons and daughters of the aristocratic and bourgeoisie also have no taste. They are just as tacky and base as the everyone else. The only hope for people like you and I is to live in the past (like your picrel), and maybe, maybe perhaps try to lay the foundations for a cultural revival for our children's children.
Anonymous :
11 days ago :
No.10362
>>10364
In my experience, people are at least somewhat receptive to your ideas if you don't sound like you think you're better than them. Sure, there's an endless supply of unthinking automatons, but you don't exactly have to talk to them past the superficial. Tangentially, it's always a bit concerning when boards/forums come to more comprise laments on the state of their discourse rather than valuable contributions. A reflection of the general cultural malaise of the times.
>>10362
I do agree obsessing over taste like it's some inert thing you just "possess" is silly, but to disregard all interactions with culture as mindless consumption is a ridiculous sentiment. If we can't derive meaning from culture, then there's not much that remains past sheer life-denying nihilism.
>>10366>>10362
What I found a long time ago is that "taste" just means "trying". When I talk to someone and they say, Oh my favorite artist is XYZ, and they cannot answer why or give me any reasons why I would care, then they haven't tried. They don't actually know.
This is the reason why gatekeeping around certain artists was (and still is) a thing. It's like saying, "I love electronic music" but not knowing who Aphex Twin is. If you don't, you haven't tried. And knowing who he is is not the pinnacle of taste (because taste never ends, trying never "ends") but everyone who has "tried" electronic music should know who he is.
Taste just means you bothered caring enough to explore and its painfully obvious to see those who don't explore -- they have literally nothing to say.
>>10370>>10362
RS-sphere cares about taste because that's all rich arthoes have to offer, so it's all they care about, and thus regulates access to their pants. They're all desire, not creativity or things I really care about like compassion or wisdom.
My friends have watch parties and play games and we impose our tastes on each other that way. Most of them are Disney/Swiftie type people and that doesn't change the fact that I love them. I just try to sprinkle in some A24 or whatever. They will likely never change but they find value in what variety I bring to their life.
>>10373>>10362
Because taste is about half of making good art. If you can't see what's good or bad in other's works, how will you see it in your own?
why does this place and rs subreddits care so much about "taste". sure having better taste is good but idk id be a bit ashamed of being proud of it. it is consumption at the end of the day (even if you don't like that word!)
write stuff, make your own music even if it's bad and be ridiculed for that rather wish for praise for good taste
Anonymous :
11 days ago :
No.10363
>>10365
>>10363
I get that. and I'm sorry if my tone was harsh, it's just that I've accepted that im not going to meet people irl who have the same taste as me and I've made internet communities substitute for that. I think most people who don't watch the latest on Netflix or read y/a fall in the same category as us, regardless of what their and our tastes are. so it's kind of wishful thinking to be part of a community based on taste in books and movies. even before the internet I believe you'd be hard pressed to find someone who understands and shares your tastes if your tastes veer towards any niche. that's just the way it is.
I'm also cynical about this because I learnt my lesson a long time ago to keep what I I'm interested in to myself to not be judged for it. at some point I even tried to change what I read and watched to fit in with other people but I've stopped doing that now.
>> 10362
Because everyone has a taste and sharing that taste and discussing it and learning more from others like you is one of the most satisfying things in daily life. It is sad when you can't share that with the people in your daily life, and even sadder when people reject or dismiss your interests out of some stupid insecurity, no matter how often it actually happens. It also sucks to attempt to talk to people about these things and they feel uncomfortable or out of their depth. It's not about praise it's about being able to share something new with others and receive something new in return.
In my experience, people are at least somewhat receptive to your ideas if you don't sound like you think you're better than them. Sure, there's an endless supply of unthinking automatons, but you don't exactly have to talk to them past the superficial. Tangentially, it's always a bit concerning when boards/forums come to more comprise laments on the state of their discourse rather than valuable contributions. A reflection of the general cultural malaise of the times.
>>10362
why does this place and rs subreddits care so much about "taste". sure having better taste is good but idk id be a bit ashamed of being proud of it. it is consumption at the end of the day (even if you don't like that word!)
write stuff, make your own music even if it's bad and be ridiculed for that rather wish for praise for good taste
I do agree obsessing over taste like it's some inert thing you just "possess" is silly, but to disregard all interactions with culture as mindless consumption is a ridiculous sentiment. If we can't derive meaning from culture, then there's not much that remains past sheer life-denying nihilism.
>>10363
>> 10362
Because everyone has a taste and sharing that taste and discussing it and learning more from others like you is one of the most satisfying things in daily life. It is sad when you can't share that with the people in your daily life, and even sadder when people reject or dismiss your interests out of some stupid insecurity, no matter how often it actually happens. It also sucks to attempt to talk to people about these things and they feel uncomfortable or out of their depth. It's not about praise it's about being able to share something new with others and receive something new in return.
I get that. and I'm sorry if my tone was harsh, it's just that I've accepted that im not going to meet people irl who have the same taste as me and I've made internet communities substitute for that. I think most people who don't watch the latest on Netflix or read y/a fall in the same category as us, regardless of what their and our tastes are. so it's kind of wishful thinking to be part of a community based on taste in books and movies. even before the internet I believe you'd be hard pressed to find someone who understands and shares your tastes if your tastes veer towards any niche. that's just the way it is.
I'm also cynical about this because I learnt my lesson a long time ago to keep what I I'm interested in to myself to not be judged for it. at some point I even tried to change what I read and watched to fit in with other people but I've stopped doing that now.
>>10362
why does this place and rs subreddits care so much about "taste". sure having better taste is good but idk id be a bit ashamed of being proud of it. it is consumption at the end of the day (even if you don't like that word!)
write stuff, make your own music even if it's bad and be ridiculed for that rather wish for praise for good taste
What I found a long time ago is that "taste" just means "trying". When I talk to someone and they say, Oh my favorite artist is XYZ, and they cannot answer why or give me any reasons why I would care, then they haven't tried. They don't actually know.
This is the reason why gatekeeping around certain artists was (and still is) a thing. It's like saying, "I love electronic music" but not knowing who Aphex Twin is. If you don't, you haven't tried. And knowing who he is is not the pinnacle of taste (because taste never ends, trying never "ends") but everyone who has "tried" electronic music should know who he is.
Taste just means you bothered caring enough to explore and its painfully obvious to see those who don't explore -- they have literally nothing to say.
If you care what someone thinks about you, it means you see them as your peer on some level. I don’t care what low class people think of me because I’m lowkey classist.
>>10362
why does this place and rs subreddits care so much about "taste". sure having better taste is good but idk id be a bit ashamed of being proud of it. it is consumption at the end of the day (even if you don't like that word!)
write stuff, make your own music even if it's bad and be ridiculed for that rather wish for praise for good taste
RS-sphere cares about taste because that's all rich arthoes have to offer, so it's all they care about, and thus regulates access to their pants. They're all desire, not creativity or things I really care about like compassion or wisdom.
My friends have watch parties and play games and we impose our tastes on each other that way. Most of them are Disney/Swiftie type people and that doesn't change the fact that I love them. I just try to sprinkle in some A24 or whatever. They will likely never change but they find value in what variety I bring to their life.
>>10362
why does this place and rs subreddits care so much about "taste". sure having better taste is good but idk id be a bit ashamed of being proud of it. it is consumption at the end of the day (even if you don't like that word!)
write stuff, make your own music even if it's bad and be ridiculed for that rather wish for praise for good taste
Because taste is about half of making good art. If you can't see what's good or bad in other's works, how will you see it in your own?
Shadow puppet gooner above me